Dwayna laughs at women’s conference

In this article, Dwayna attempts to attack feminism in the emergent church.  Unfortunately all she did was post the advertisement and laugh at it (literally).  She did highlight the fact that the women were going to be staying in a “modern day castle.”  I am sure the problem there is that Christians in Vietnam are unable to stay in a castle, and so they shouldn’t either.  The only really substantial thing that she could find wrong with the event, you ask?  The fact that is was held at the Stronghold Conference Center.  Are all the ladies at CRN running out of material these days?

Saddleback hasn’t held to its word!

Well, kinda something like that.  According to the “editor” at CRN, Saddleback has failed to accomplish two of the goals set forth in the 20/20 Vision Plan.  Gasp!  They even called them to make sure this was true.  Saddleback has yet to start a believer’s mid-week service, nor have they developed 250 gifted teachers of the word!  Unfortunately, what CRN failed to mention is that they have met most of their goals and have 13 YEARS to complete these two.  Can we say nit-picking?

Love… or Charity

In risk of becoming equally nit-picking (and attempting satire), I will not emphasize this last headline.  But they decided to post I Corinthians 13:1-8 as their daily scripture.  The love chapter right?  This might show that CRN actually does show love in all they do.  Well their translation of the bible uses charity in place of love.  So, the verses read:

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.  And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.        

 Maybe that’s where they are getting mixed up.  They don’t realize that without LOVE we are nothing.

… and that was all written before lunch today people!

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1   Joe Martino    http://joemartino.name
April 20th, 2007 at 1:05 pm

I honestly (and I’m not being sarcastic or funny here) think that Dwayne may be unstable. I fear she may have some issues.
If you want a good time go to oldtruth and click on the link for saloon church. Yet, another ministry advancing the Gospel that I wouldn’t have found without our friends.

2   PTDW    
April 20th, 2007 at 1:10 pm

The bible version they’re using is the King James. You know, no serious scholarship has been done biblically since the 1600s. By the way, JohnnyMac doesn’t use the KJV, nor does Piper.

And doesn’t the KJV have it’s roots in the apostate Anglican church? Besides, everyone knows that Paul didn’t speak English, he spoke Icelandic:

Fyrra bréf Páls til Korin 13
1Þótt ég talaði tungum manna og engla, en hefði ekki kærleika, væri ég hljómandi málmur eða hvellandi bjalla.

2Og þótt ég hefði spádómsgáfu og vissi alla leyndardóma og ætti alla þekking, og þótt ég hefði svo takmarkalausa trú, að færa mætti fjöll úr stað, en hefði ekki kærleika, væri ég ekki neitt.

3Og þótt ég deildi út öllum eigum mínum, og þótt ég framseldi líkama minn, til þess að verða brenndur, en hefði ekki kærleika, væri ég engu bættari.

4Kærleikurinn er langlyndur, hann er góðviljaður. Kærleikurinn öfundar ekki. Kærleikurinn er ekki raupsamur, hreykir sér ekki upp.

5Hann hegðar sér ekki ósæmilega, leitar ekki síns eigin, hann reiðist ekki, er ekki langrækinn.

6Hann gleðst ekki yfir óréttvísinni, en samgleðst sannleikanum.

7Hann breiðir yfir allt, trúir öllu, vonar allt, umber allt.

8Kærleikurinn fellur aldrei úr gildi. En spádómsgáfur, þær munu líða undir lok, og tungur, þær munu þagna, og þekking, hún mun líða undir lok.

3   Joe Martino    http://joemartino.name
April 20th, 2007 at 1:13 pm

Besides being a dumb post, did you read the wording on their post slamming Saddleback? I’ve directly cut and past here,

So far not one of the churches that we’ve contacted has spontaneously said that ‘Saddleback’s lay ministers are the Best Bible teachers.”

Why would they spontaneously say that? I mean would they just be walking around and start spouting about how good they are? Wouldn’t we be looking for their Kool-aid then?

By the way here’s the dic. def of spontaneous:

–adjective 1. coming or resulting from a natural impulse or tendency; without effort or premeditation; natural and unconstrained; unplanned: a spontaneous burst of applause.
2. (of a person) given to acting upon sudden impulses.
3. (of natural phenomena) arising from internal forces or causes; independent of external agencies; self-acting.
4. growing naturally or without cultivation, as plants and fruits; indigenous.
5. produced by natural process.

4   PTDW    
April 20th, 2007 at 1:17 pm

BTW, I just looked at my comment and got goose bumps. Not from the acerbic wit, but from God’s Word and the work that was done to reach people with it (like the Icelandic translation.)

God is good, even when his people aren’t.

5   Henry (Rick) Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
April 20th, 2007 at 1:34 pm

Let me speak a word of observation since prophetess Dwayna made one about a conference. Every year MacArthur holds a shepherds conference. Now what would be the message God would desire to say to shepherds?

Would it be “lift up your eyes to the fields”?
Would it be “run to your prayer closet and meet with God”?
Would it be “let us call a solemn fast”?
Would it be “let God fill you with compassion”?
Would it be “be consumed with God’s love”?
Would it be “pray for revival among yourselves”?

Well one leader thought they needed to hear “Why I am a Calvinist”. I am not sure that is what God wanted to say to His undershepherds, but that’s just me.

6   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
April 20th, 2007 at 1:38 pm


When I read CRN, I think that the message to them would come out of Ezekiel 34…

7   nathan    http://www.nathanneighbour.com
April 20th, 2007 at 3:41 pm

this quote from Dwayna’s blog made me absolutely sick! She is talking about how she can’t go back to a certain presbyterian church in NYC:

“I think the only way I could visit the church again would be for simply research purposes (to find out how much error I would find either amongst the books being sold or via another non-biblical sermon tangent like I heard the first Sunday I visited.”


8   iggy    http://watchingthewatchdawgforchrist.blogspot.com/index.html
April 24th, 2007 at 6:57 pm


Interestingly the use of “charity” as understood is the more “biblical” word… not saying that it does not negate love, but it means more…

It is love in action… charity if you think about it is that one is helping the other better themselves… it is not so much the idea of an hand out… but a hand up…

Meaning… charity is that we must do something and in doing that something, we are expressing the Love of God through our actions… it is a call to a deeper expression of love, than if we are told just to “love”.

Now, as CRN is using it… we can only guess, but as far as from the junk that overflows from there, it seems that love is not that important… nor is the true meaning of charity…

But alas, they who have ears will hear… and those who don’t will choose to do whatever will backup their own doctrinal views…