Ken Silva has been posting here again. It seems like every time he comes around, something new pops up. here are a few highlight from his comments:
*sigh* As I have said on many, I am not a Calvinist.
Really? Then why did you publish three articles on your blog entitled “why I am a Calvinist“? I am sure that was all a big mix-up. Or, maybe God told you to just be a Calvinist for a few days…just enough time to publish a few blogs, right?
With all due respect I don’t really think it’s wise to question another’s motives.
Really? It would have been great if you didn’t question Dan Kimball’s motives when he researched homosexuality in the scriptures. Every day at CRN and Apprising you question the motives of hundreds of pastors and ministers around the world.
It’s nothing personal, I’m just doing my job and trusting the Lord to take care of the results. I have no responsibility about how someone else is walking with Christ.
If you “have no responsibility about how someone else is walking with Christ” then why do you take it on yourself every day to correct others’ walk? I mean, if it isn’t your responsibility then why have a website dedicated to the walk and ministry of other people?
As a pastor-teacher I am to get alone with God, apply myself to hearing from Him and then doing my level best to deliver the particular message that I happen to have.
Wow… this sounds pretty contemplative and mystical to me. I mean, there aren’t too many emergent pastors that would say they get personal direct messages from God himself on a regular basis.
I think this all says alot about the “pastor-teacher” Ken Silva. And the best thing is, he said it himself!
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Nathan,
Also for the record. I am not complaining about this post of yours, nor am I the least bit angry with you based on your opinions concerning what you think I mean by what I said.
I simply disagree with your conclusions and believe you to be in error.
Ken,
They are in a redundant mode. This is old ground. Come up with something original, if you are able.
Redundant?
Old ground?
The same dead horses get beat over at that other internet “ministry” and that’s what gets criticized here?
I don’t get it any of this…
Whine, whine, whine from the discernment camp. When someone points it out, then they get accused of whining.
Talk about flipping the script…
It’s like telling someone they ruined the marriage because they didn’t want to stick around for daily beatings. Since they left they’re at fault.
Again…I don’t get it.
another nathan,
“Again…I don’t get it.” With all due respect, based on what you just said; I must agree, no you don’t.
I have said for a really long-time that I think Ken is unbalanced. He would do well to see someone.
Rob
You’re right Ken, it’s baffling to call things “ministry” that are conducted that way.
Rob,
Nice to see you again. The Lord bless you. I appreciate your concern.
What I don’t understand is how Ken finds the time to write and research all this stuff. Most of the pastors I know are too busy with their flock that they don’t have time to write long essays on some other church somewhere else. If Ken would just spend his time on something more worthwhile, like visitation, preparing Sunday sermons, evangelizing Claremont, NH (a nice town, by the way. I have friends who live there), or praying for his church, his family, his town, and his state, everyone would be all the better for it.
Now what I find interesting here is that Matt has never approached me personally and then sat down with me to discuss what it is I do each week before he stated how I should be spending my time.
But isn’t this exactly what I am regularly accused of doing concerning men like Bell and McManus by the good Christians here? While I don’t take this criticism personally (1 Cor. 15:10), it is kind of a double standard, don’t you think?
Well Ken, Since we’re on double standards. You gonna open comments anytime soon? Is it just wrong for us to post disagreements with you on your webpage? Why do you come here and “waste” your time?
I hope your day is emerging to be one of the best!
Well Joe, you see it’s like this. You just made the logical fallacy of the false analogy here. AM/CRN (apples) never have allowed comments where CRN.Info (oranges) always has allowed comments. Sorry, no double standard. You keep trying though.
As far as posting my comments, of course you are welcome to ban me if you wish, after all I caused a few “Slice-shunned” myself. Concerning “wasting” my time, well friend, in your case it’d probably be a good idea for you to let me decide how I should best spend my time in the Lord.
You have a great day as well and you be sure to say hello to Rob for me when you get there.
Hey Ken, I’m gonna call him on the phone later. Maybe I’ll let you know how much you love him!
Ken, I’ll let him know how much you love him. But seriously Ken, you’ve called me an apostate before, so why do you come here and waste your time. R U hoping I’ll repent and become like you
Hey Ken, One other thing, do you intend to answer any of the questions presented in this post? Why did you write some missives explaining why you are a Calvinist and then when it seemed prudent you changed your wolf clothes to a differently dyed wool?
Ah vah; why Joe, you said: “you changed your wolf clothes to a differently dyed wool.” So now you say I’m not a Christian? Tsk. Tsk.
“you write some missives explaining why you are a Calvinist.” R U sure this B true?
Ken, I thank God that I don’t have to decide who is and who isn’t a Christian. You would certainly be a hard nut for me to crack, if that were the case. Here’s the thing Ken, you didn’t write it. You just quoted TeamPyro, but your posting would certainly lend one to think that you support it. You still haven’t answered the question: Why come here? You said, I’m apostate. Does that mean you don’t think I’m a Christian? Why waste your time on me? Here’s your chance to set the record strait.
Oh and Ken, I tire of your semantics. You published them. Why if you’re not?
Joe, in my mind a person can teach heresy and not be a heretic in the accepted sense. Heresy is just anything that isn’t true and we all fit into that catagory.
Labelling a person a heretic means he teaches things that are not Biblically Christian. It is an extremely serious label.
As far as apostate, that goes even further. An apostate is someone who has rejected the faith and has counted the blood of the covenant as an unholy thing. There is no coming back for an apostate, but a person can slide into heresy and later repent, but my understanding of Hebrews is when someone commits apostacy there is no returning.
I surely do not count you as apostate and probably Ken has used that term in a dramatic fashion but not in the terms I just explained. I would hope that is the case. You are not a heretic either, but I suppose if we traded doctrinal baseball cards I would find some in your collection that I would consider heresy. For instance, I consider the Calvinist view of election as a wrong teaching, but limited atonement is heresy.
That doesn’t mean that person isn’t saved, and Ken is brother who espouses the Calvinistic persuasion but he likes to be somewhat slippery about it. Now please understand what I am about to share because I in no way want to offend you but I do want to give you a better perspective about where many of us are (and Ken may not admit it but I would think he generally espouses what I am going to say)
Generally, many of us view people like Rick Warren and Rob Bell and others as teaching heresy in some areas. If gone unchecked and if expanded upon we fear their teachings will eventually lead to apostacy (which means the teachings are so deviant and compromised that they no longer contain the effectual revelation of the gospel). It has happened in church history before and it could happen again.
These are my sincere concerns and I appreciate you letting me share them openly in a forum that doesn’t lean in my direction. And I thought that maybe I could interject some substance between the pillow fight you and Ken were having. I was going to have to send you both to a time out!
Rick, I’m working on writing this all out for my own understanding and will probably end up posting it here. As for salvation I’ll say it again, I’m thankful I don’t have to be the one who decides who is and who isn’t. As for Ken calling me an apostate, we’ll let him answer what he meant by it.
I’d personally love to see Ken’s schedule. I’m a lay person at a local church and I’m so busy with volunteer work that I do there that I don’t have time to write lengthly posts.
wow… I am away for like 48 hours and miss all the fun!
Gentlemen, let’s not get off point. Ken Silva has yet to answer the questions asked him here and on my previous blog. For a man who is in a battle for the truth, he sure seems to be pretty elusive in his explanations.
Ken, would you please answer these questions?
That’s my point Nathan, Do you really think that he will answer? Has he ever answered one of our questions? The only thing I’ve seen is him side step the questions or not answer at all. I mean even with my wife (and I think she did a great job) he never really answered any of her questions.
While I don’t agree with your theological stance on Rob, Warren and others, the fact still remains.
Ken said he was not a Calvinist, yet publishes three posts on Why I am a Calvinist. Calvinist theology would not support this statement:
“Generally, many of us view people like Rick Warren and Rob Bell and others as teaching heresy in some areas. If gone unchecked and if expanded upon we fear their teachings will eventually lead to apostacy”
The elect can never go into apostasy in Calvinism. I just want to know what Ken believes.
Ok…I have a question…who the heck is Ken Silva? What is he the pastor of? I have read his comments over at AM and think that all he is accomplishing is being a hate-monger.
Oh yeah…and if he is so sure of himself and his opinions…why does he not allow comments on his beloved AM website?
Just wondering!
I have a comment regarding heresy in response to Rick Frueh. I’m definitely not a seminary student, but I have two brothers who are, and I am a student of philosophy at my university. I could be wrong about this, but as long as we’re talking about ecumenical churches, isn’t heresy just anything that jeopardizes anything stated in the creeds? I’m pretty sure that that is the theological definition. That way, the differences between Calvin, Luther, and Zwingli aren’t heretical. Maybe I’m wrong, I’ll have to call my brothers when it isn’t 4:00 in the morning, but that’s how I understand it.