Watchdawggies Don't Do RockDEFINITION:

ca·nard (k-närd)

NOUN:

An unfounded or false, deliberately misleading story.

While this word might be used to describe most ‘miss-ives’ on AM and many stories on CR&N and Slice, Ingrid has chosen it to describe a canard of her own – that musical style is not a neutral element, when applied to worship.  In Ingrid’s world, there are styles of music which the Lord approves and styles He does not.  Fortunately, for the rest of us, we live in God’s world, and not Ingrid’s.

On neutrality in music, I think it is safe to say the music used for a stripper show would not be acceptable as worship to God. (Ingrid 4:42-43)

There was a story a couple of years ago (which my Google search hasn’t found yet), where a stripper who posed as a “nun” would play classical pipe-organ music while she performed private shows.  Does this mean that classical pipe-organ music, as a style, would not honor God – or, would it imply that the stripper was using something of God (music) for an ungodly end (sexual enticement)?

Music itself has a message and an attitude. (II Opinions 3:13)

Without words, how is it that music has a message?  Without words, how is it that music has an ‘attitude’?  Western music, as we know it, with meter and 12-tone scales, is only a few hundred years old.  Yet we know, from multiple Biblical accounts, that it existed thousands of years ago, with both percussion, woodwind, brass and stringed instrumentation.  From historical recreation, it is fairly certain that we would find ancient music to be atonal and somewhat offensive to our modern ears.

Yet, we learn from scripture that it is what comes from the mouth that reveals what is in the heart.  It is the words of music which give it message.  It is the words of the music which give it attitude.

Haughtiness/arrogance, sensuality (think dirty sax), hard driving rock and death metal that speaks of hatred and wrath, the rebellion of rap, none of this speaks of holiness, majesty, honor and love for our monarch, Jesus Christ. (II Opinions 3:14-20)

Notice that here, Ingrid blurs the lines between style and lyrical content via the verb “speaks”.  It is not a style that ’speaks’, but words.  What makes a saxophone “dirty” or “clean”?  What makes a guitar chord wrathful?  What makes rap rebellious?  Words give meaning.

That is not to say, though, that all musical styles can be used as worship by all people – to some it would be distracting (or nigh impossible).  Indian music has a completely different tonal scale that I cannot sing and that makes me cringe.  My brothers and sisters in Christ in India use it to worship God, but I doubt I could (without serious immersion in their culture).  Likewise, I doubt they would be able to focus on God and worship of Him to the strains of Handel’s Messiah.  Each church community works with its own body to find what style(s) are acceptable and can be used to lead others into a time of worship.  They don’t need an Ingrid to tell them what’s OK and what’s not, based on her own definition of what brings honor and what does not.

The aforementioned music is about our flesh, all of it. (II Opinions 3:21)

Here, Ingrid has now blurred what worship actually IS.  It is bringing honor and glory to God – aligning our hearts with His.  In each community in worship, it is important that the music used in worship is not a distraction from who it is that we worship.  As such, forcing a universal list of what is acceptable stylistically and what is not completely misses the point of worship, and in many cases, may make use of music in worship impossible.

Further, can you imagine Queen Elizabeth II stepping out of the limo at the White House and being greeted by the sounds of a sleazy saxophone or some rapper with pants falling off, doing his street thing? (Hezekiah 14:28-30)

What do Queen Elizabeth II and the Pope have in common?  They both think the world smells like fresh paint.

God does not want us to be one thing when we are in worship of Him and something else the other 167 hours of the week.  Not only that, but Ingrid’s comment has nothing to do with musical style, but everything to do with the dress and mannerisms of the musicians.  Indeed, those who lead worship, like the music itself, should not serve to distract from the purpose of worship, and should worship in a manner that is in reverence of God (so pants falling off would not really qualify).  But that is, again, apart from style – which is what Ingrid is supposedly addressing.

How dare we throw our filthy cultural music at Him and call it worship?  (Ingrid 1:4)

How dare we throw our filthy opinions of other people’s worship at them and tell them they aren’t worshipping the way WE think they should?  To repeat – it is not the musical style which determines what is acceptable in worship - it is the words, the actions and the hearts behind the words and actions which make this determination.  Let’s not try to make our opinions into God’s opinions.

After a few days of Slice 2.0, I think I’ll go with Russ N’s assessment:

Maybe Slice 2.0’s tag-line should read “Worrying about the externals, so you don’t have to.”

Thanks Russ!

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17 Comments(+Add)

1   Spencer    http://sfpitman-thecrunge.blogspot.com
May 9th, 2007 at 12:16 pm

Awesome. I just posted up something similar on my site. Glad there are other people putting the “logic” at those sites to the question (and that I found this blog as a result of Ken Silva’s post, haha).

Rock on

-Spencer

2   phil    
May 9th, 2007 at 12:36 pm

Does this mean we have to remove “Big Spender” from our worship set this Sunday? It ties into the message so well!

3   Coop    http://whileromeburns.blogspot.com
May 9th, 2007 at 12:54 pm

Dag… guess we’ll have to cut All That Jazz out too… and I suppose Cabaret is completely out of the question.

*Cleanup on aisle 7! Bring a mop for the sarcasm!* :-P

4   phil    
May 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pm

Seriously, though, I thought Christians gave up on the “evils of rock music” racket in the 80’s. Evidently, I was wrong.

What’s next, perhaps a missive on “mixed bathing”?

5   Tim    http://churchvoices.com
May 9th, 2007 at 1:08 pm

Anyone else find it hilarious that for all her ranting about the reformation there’s not a bit of scripture to be found anywhere in that post? Its pure philosophy (and not very good philosophy at that). Theology ex nihilo, compliments of Ingrid.

6   Neil    
May 9th, 2007 at 1:51 pm

WOW – I made the personal reference status by Ingrid in that post! How cool!

I responded to the original (http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=8#comment-123) and the new one (http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=54#comment-124)... but my responses have not posted yet.

7   matt    http://www.watermark.org
May 9th, 2007 at 2:24 pm

Ha. I’ve had only one recurring thought over the last day or so since Ingrid re-christened the ol’ S.O. Laodicea…

Sheeee’s BAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaak!

(Insert strings from Psycho)

8   Henry (Rick) Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
May 9th, 2007 at 2:30 pm

It is so incongruous to claim “solo scriptura” and then craft an entire musical theology with no Scripture whatsoever. It is all reasoning based upon one’s upbringing and preference.

Content? Yes, let’s talk about that. Saxaphone? tedious.

Is there literature (without cursing) that God approves and some that He doesn’t? Iambic pentameter yes! Limericks no! Some of this music isn’t very clear about their message so in that it is fleshly and compromises any purpose.

And the ultimate in self righteousness is not only do I worship God the right way, I use His own music – and He appreciates it!

9   robbymac    http://www.robbymac.org
May 9th, 2007 at 3:58 pm

Well, I for one have burned all my classical music records — I swear you could hear the demons screaming — when I discovered the truth about Mozart’s lifestyle of debauchery. I knew, then and there, that this so-called “classical music” was a lie from the pit, and would lead all churches who used it into debauchery, apostasy, and watching Hee-Haw re-runs for all eternity.

Thank God that He helped me discover the music that is truly honouring — the BLUES

10   Russ N.    http://russ-ramblings.blogspot.com
May 9th, 2007 at 4:01 pm

Chris L. — you’re welcome. :-)

11   Neil    
May 9th, 2007 at 6:53 pm

Henry –

That was a very good post.

Neil

12   nathan    http://www.nathanneighbour.com
May 9th, 2007 at 7:53 pm

AAAHH! this is so frustrating! I started a good conversation over at slice with these people, and now they won’t post my comments. There was NOTHING offensive in them, just good old fashion debate… Grrrrr.

13   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
May 9th, 2007 at 8:53 pm

Nathan – track them and make sure that they’re not approved before we actually document this. To this point, this is the first I’ve heard of non-approval of comments. As with this site, when I moderate comments, some may be hours old, since I don’t constantly sit here checking for comments from new posters.

14   Joe    
May 9th, 2007 at 9:08 pm

RobbyMac, would that be “Blue Like Jazz?”

15   Neil    
May 10th, 2007 at 10:45 am

The last two posts I made took several hours to show up – but they did.

Neil

16   Matt    http://matbathome.blogspot.com/
May 11th, 2007 at 10:54 am

Here is a story about people who were listening to classical music and started acting fleshy. My coworkers comment was, “Sounds like something that would happen at a Kiss concert.”

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/05/11/opening_night_at_pops_packs_an_unexpected_wallop/?p1=MEWell_Pos2

17   kenn    
May 11th, 2007 at 4:08 pm

The music issue totally eludes me.

I can’t imagine a life devoid of all the great styles of music we have access to, and why, if I’m understanding the world according to Ingrid, all that great stuff is off limits.

A gut-wrenching, soul-stirring guitar solo from B.B.King…the timeless magic of swing from Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman…the pure fun and funk of Paliament/Funkadelic…Country…Jazz…the “British Invasion” of the early ’60s…straight ahead Rock n Roll…

What an amazing menu to choose from! Would life be enhanced by the absence of all that?

I can’t imagine how it could be. Music is the spice of life. A little of this..a little of that. Sometimes, nothing hits the spot like a sad George Jones song. Other times, what could sound better than a long funky sax solo from David Sanborn.

I guess in Ingridland, it would be like a steady diet of vanilla yogurt. Safe and bland. Nothing wild and spicy.

Just safe and bland.

Yuk.

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