Comments on: Pot Calling the Kettle Black

By: phil

phil — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:38:01 +0000

Rick,
Just for whatever it’s worth, I don’t believe Donald Miller is in any type of leadership position at Imago Dei, he just attends there. Rick McKinley is the name of the lead pastor.

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:36:29 +0000

Miller didn’t write it. He is heavily involved with the church. It’s just interesting that the “emerging” churches are supposedly liberal.

And Ken and Ingrid have slammed Imago Dei as well.

By: Henry (Rick) Frueh

Henry (Rick) Frueh — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:28:47 +0000

Matt – a very balanced and well written treatise. I applaud Miller for having Biblical courage from both persuasions.

He must have had some prayerful contemplation before he wrote it. (OK, sarcasm)

By: Matt

Matt — Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:11:50 +0000

Imago Dei, Donald Miller’s home church and favorite whipping boy for Ken and Ingrid, has released a statement on women and leadership in their church.

It is a soft complementarian statement.

http://www.imagodeicommunity.com/article/women-in-ministry–qa-forum-this-sunday

By: I can See Clearly now, the rain is gone...

I can See Clearly now, the rain is gone... — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:59:03 +0000

I agree with you Phil

By: phil

phil — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:05:57 +0000

Joe,
Well, I don’t have a problem necessarily with people holding a certain position that is different then mine. It becomes an issue, though, when people start accusing others of apostasy when holding a certain position on a secondary issue. I guess, in a sense, that is the definition of fundamentalism.

By: I can See Clearly now, the rain is gone...

I can See Clearly now, the rain is gone... — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:32:32 +0000

I’m not saying that Ken believes that b/c I don’t know if he does or not. I was just stating from my experience. And I certainly don’t believe it.

By: I can See Clearly now, the rain is gone...

I can See Clearly now, the rain is gone... — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:30:11 +0000

Phil,
The good LORD knows I’m no defender of anything Ken, but to be fair there are people who would hold that position because they believe it is the most Biblically correct. Everyone I’ve ever met was mean spirited, often bigoted, and not very good pastors, but they were consistent.

By: Ken Silva

Ken Silva — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:20:20 +0000

“I donâ€™t see how listing a qualification that is specific for a man anyway forbids a woman from serving.”

O I totally understand how God would write something specific to a man when He also meant women as well. He really isn’t much of a communicator.

By: phil

phil — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:07:17 +0000

Ken, Not that it will convince you, but here is the A/G's position paper on women in leadership. By the way, based on a comletely literal reading of 1 Timothy 3, I guess elders should be required to be married and have children then? I don't see how listing a qualification that is specific for a man anyway forbids a woman from serving.