Is it just me or did anyone else read this post and say, “Um What?” This quote really made me shake my head.
It is my belief that we should develop a bridge that connects the seriously Christian men to the seriously Christian women. There are
small isolated pockets of both scattered across the
U.S. We need to unite Godly couples who can
grow together, marry, and nurture a family so we who
are the remnant can stand firm throughout these
tumultuous times. (emphasis added)
Didn’t God say He has kept to himself a remnant. This post actually illustrates the dangerous ideology that drives many watchblog mentalities. “We are the chosen few, the only one’s holding the standard high. God is so happy to have me on His side.”
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Dude, I was just about to launch my Remnant Dating Service. The slogan would be “connecting judgemental people – one at a time” or “help me find somebody to judge”.
On a serious note, though, what is wrong with a man thinking a woman should have a career outside the home? I love how that is lumped into the “feminist” agenda in that post. I mean even if a woman stays home after a couple has kids, what does she do beforehand, or after the kids grow up? I don’t see anything in the Bible that prohibits a woman from getting an education or having a career.
It’s not like most couples have kids the day after they’re married. I for one would be pretty ticked off if I was at work all day, and my wife was just sitting at home when while we don’t have children. I agreed to marry a woman, not adopt a child.
WOW, in light of the attack against Brian McLaren stating that we need to think more forward and think about our children and grandchildren… this seems to be rather double minded!
I laugh that they declare themselves the Remnant.
Be Blessed,
iggy
Phil,
Especially in view of Proverbs 31 where the ideal wife is out buying property and making it productive. Seems quite entrepreneurial to me. There’s also quite a few women in the NT that seem to have quite a bit of wealth. Or at least enough to house a house church.
Remnant dating service.
Qualifications: Bread-baking. Gardening. Ability to milk cow and turn it to butter or cheese.
In all seriousness…I don’t really know what to say about that post or the quote. Some of the post, I could understand what they were trying to say, but then to have it summed up as a way of propagating the remnant (which sort of defies the definition, if I think too much about it) — well, that’s just weird.
I would not recommend e-harmony.
(Just tried to comment here. If the comment is lost, I’ll repost. If not, I’ll just try to be patient. This one could be deleted if the comment isn’t lost.)
I added a comment on their site… i never assume they will be posted, but here it is:
what about being content in Christ Jesus?
I mean this seems to worldly to imitate them and go to matchmaking websites… what about trusting God for one’s life?
Just a thought…
iggy
Remnant Dating Service
Very funny. According to dictionary.com, the 5th definition of remnant = “Left Over.”
Julie,
There’s nothing trapped in the spam filter, aside from some rather – “interesting” – offers for items I’m not interested in procuring…
Chris,
I found her comment and set it free last night.
In some odd way, I feel bad for people who honestly think they are the remnant. It seems that they have such a pessimistic outlook on life, but it also seems that they want things to get worse so Christ can come back. It’s an odd mix of Calvinism and Dispensationalism, I suppose. God has the Elect, and everyone else can just go to h*ll. Very, very dangerous.
It seems to me to go against the very core of Christ’s teaching to consider yourself better than someone else, even if they are a “sinner”. I guess that’s the thing that bothers me most about the post. It’s just the attitude that the only suitable mate for one of the “remnant” is another member of the “remnant”. It’s just another way to divide people.
Funny…..very funny!
I especially like the comment about Remnant meaning “Left-Over”. That is hilarious.
Thanks for making me laugh today.
Peace!
Joe putting words in Ingrid’s mouth, “We are the chosen few, the only one’s holding the standard high. God is so happy to have me on His side.”
And the watchbloggers are the ones that engulf strawmen with flamethrowers?
clearly – Joe is clearly (ahem) describing a general attitude, and he didn’t quote anyone as saying it. In fact, he didn’t name anyone that I can see…
If I go the the linked article, as well, it is a letter from “Sarah” (not Ingrid). This self-ascribing of “remnant” theology (which IS in the article) is arrogant, at best. In fact, the use of a ‘remnant’, beyond the nation of Israel, is not a Biblical theme, and the only acription of such (as a pattern) in the New Testament is from Paul, discussing Jews’ recognition of Christ, and (possibly) John in ascribing 144,000.
Going right along with JohnD’s post, it is a dangerous theology which ascribes to itself exclusive remnant status in the face of Jesus’ teaching.
A question, in seriousness (which will reveal my ignorance):
1. Does the remnant know they are the remnant?
2. How often is the remannt talked about in the Bible?
3. Is it as often as other topics (poor, money, etc.) or is this a case of a few verses being turned into more than they are?
Any scripture verses, etc. would be greatly appreciated from anyone. This idea of remnant is very, very strong on some of these sites, and even other sites that are really odd and suggest we all (who are the remnant) start hoarding dry beans and such.
(Joe, thanks for setting my comment free.)
Julie,
Remnant theology is a strong theme in the Hebrew Scriptures (OT), and is seen as God keeping His promise to Noah after the flood and to Abraham, in terms of his descendants – in spite of the disobedience of the people.
One key to the remnant, though, is that they are always chosen by grace – many who are righteous do not become part of the remnant; they, too, suffer for their sins and the sins of the people. Some who are not righteous are part of the remnant (though often fewer), also as a demonstration of grace.
Narratively, the remnant is seen in the rescue of the children of Israel from Egypt (many died there or did not come out); Entering the land after 40 years of wandering (all of the parent generation, save Joshua and Caleb, died in the wilderness, but the remnant continued); After 70 years of captivity in Babylon, a remnant returned to found Jerusalem.
Many Jews consider it to be an overriding theme within the scriptures, along with care for the oppressed.
Christians who latch onto Remnant Theology tend to view Paul’s comments about Israel in Romans 9-11 as either a) replacement theology, wherein the Gentile church replaces Israel as the remnant; b) a view of the salvation of a remnant of the Jewish people who come to know Christ; or c) The Gentile church is grafted in as part of the remnant.
Regardless, the key to the remnant is that they are completely chosen by grace.
Here is an article which discusses this in much more detail, though I disagree with his eschatological epilogue.
http://hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Israel/israel.html
Chris L,
Interestingly as i studied Romans 8,9,10… I found that Jesus is the New Israel and we are grafted on to Him… so that both Jew and Gentile are one in Christ. There is no more Jew and Gentile… the two men have become one.
So the true remnant are those Jews and gentiles that are grafted on to Jesus by faith. Thought Paul did seem to want his own brothers (the Jews) to come to the understanding that the remnant are those who are children of Abraham by that same faith of Abraham…
I don’t see that all have to agree, yet it really struck me that there is this “separation” idea of the Jews who need Jesus and the gentiles who will give it to them. That God is now “saving the Church” and will later save the Jew… as unbiblical as the church is the Body and it is those who are attached to the Tree that is Christ Jesus… the New Israel. This comes together after verse 18 in chapter 9… you know the place most Calvinist stop as it messes up their theology…
Be blessed,
iggy