Anyone else find it hilarious when people complain about the narcissism of the present generation base their complaint on being deprived of their proper titles? Perhaps if they didn’t think quite so much of themselves they’d be a bit more tolerant of the trend of dropping sir, ma’am, Mr and Mrs.

All this reminds me of this verse:

5″Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them ‘Rabbi.’

8″But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.

Matthew 23.5-8

As long as we’re discussing irony I have to drop this quote from King of Queens, just because it makes me laugh:
“Douglas I must apologize, I thought irony meant made entirely of iron. Your story was ironic.”

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1   Chris P.    
August 17th, 2007 at 4:53 pm

I believe that the point is lack of respect.
Even jesus would not be against that. Talk about taking something out of context, both on the post and the scripture.

2   Tim Reed    
August 17th, 2007 at 5:00 pm

Chris P errrr… I mean Mr. P,
Do you insist your siblings call you Mr. P?

Also, if you read the comments (which is what this is a reference to) their responses to people who don’t use the titles they demand go waaaaay is far more disrespectful than not using “Mr” or “Mrs”.

3   chris    http://agendalesslove.wordpress.com
August 17th, 2007 at 6:50 pm

I really like the band Mister Mister.

4   Henry (Rick) Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
August 17th, 2007 at 7:08 pm

Ingrid has many negative observations about the lost, many negative observations about the emergents, many negative observations about music, many negative observations about pastors, many negative observations about evangelicals, but never, never, never, never, never, never, never, even one small, tiny, insignificant, gnat size admission of how far short she might fall in any area.

She has arrived and holds such a high place of divine approval that she sees everyone else so very clearly. That would be considered satire if it were not so painfully true.

5   Tim Reed    
August 17th, 2007 at 8:03 pm

I believe you mean Mr. Mister.

6   David C    http://davidcho.blogspot.com
August 17th, 2007 at 11:03 pm

Lack of respect.

Wow, Ingrid talks about respect? Wow.

7   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
August 17th, 2007 at 11:18 pm

Pot, meet kettle…

8   Tyler    http://tearingbooksapart.blogspot.com
August 19th, 2007 at 7:50 am

Maybe I’m missing something, but when I read quote in context of the article, I didn’t get the impression that Ingrid wants to be called “Mrs.” or that men who aren’t called “Mr.” are concerned about being deprived of their proper titles. What I read was that some adults don’t want to grow up and associate “Mr.” and “Mrs.” with adulthood and responsibility. But maybe I’m giving Ingrid the benefit of the doubt.

That’s all. Maybe you should read more carefully, or maybe I should read more carefully. I can’t exegete a blog right at this moment.

HONESTLY, please email me if you think I’ve misunderstood Ingrid. I don’t think she would object to me just calling her ‘Ingrid’ or would refuse to acknowledge me unless I referred to her as ‘ma’am.’ I don’t she’s that narcissistic.

9   Tim Reed    
August 19th, 2007 at 9:42 am

Tyler,
I appreciate you giving her the benefit of the doubt, but when she writes:

It bothers me when someone totally unfamiliar with me calls me by my first name, and it especially bugs me when a waiter or waitress comes to my table and says, “So, what can I get ‘you guys’ tonight?” Even “folks” would be better than “you guys.” I think the overabundance of informality in society is indicative of a lack of respect.

I have a hard time thinking that she would be ok with you calling her Ingrid, or not using ma’am when addressing her.

10   Henry (Rick) Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
August 19th, 2007 at 10:08 am

“Maybe you should read more carefully, or maybe I should read more carefully. ”

Tyler, you need not even read carefully. There are posts here that sometimes overilluminate some of the writings at SOL and CRN, but generally those blogs are so permeated by self serving hyperbole and self righteous judgments that most impartial readers, even if they would agree with the premise, can easily identify the tone as fleshly.

I personally have a problem with some of the emergent/emerging movement, and with the shallow seeker presentation, and with the overly pragmatic purpose driven approach. But I just could not continue to accept the aggressive and pompous way in which people like Ingrid and Ken pervasively dismiss other followers of Christ. Without humility, to say nothing of love, even if you are in the possession of truth, you have become human tablets of stone, having the letter and not the Spirit.

And the letter kills while the Spirit brings life. Notice the Scripture did not say the letter was not truth, no, only that truth without God’s Spirit is death. And that is what I sincerely believe is happening in many of the watchman blogs. They have a needed place at the doctrinal table in the body of Christ, but they have wrapped themselves in such prideful battle fatigues used to disdain and scorn other believers, they cannot be beneficial.

I wish it was different, but it is not, sadly.

11   Tyler    http://tearingbooksapart.blogspot.com/
August 19th, 2007 at 2:40 pm

Well, there we go. Thanks for your words Tim & Rick. I had neglected to read the comments section of the blog. You guys are right, I wish it was different but it’s just not. If anyone else out there gets depressed reading blogs, both those pro and contra emergent / seeker shallow etc, you’re not alone.

12   Kevin I    
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:33 am

What I think is interesting is that she associates an interest in movies, tv and video games or wearing cargo pants and filming something in a more MTV style as issues of maturity.

I think this one is an easy problem to source. I’ve always felt that people had a hard time associating things that where developed or reached popularity after they came of age as “immature”, it’s why my grandmother sees comic books as kids stuff but my dad sees it for the art it is.

I know for me I have this problem with texting on cell phones, when I see adults texting other adults, I have this knee-jerk reaction that thinks them immature. It’s because when I came of age, nobody texted. I know I’m wrong and there is nothing immature about using text-messaging but I have that weird feeling because I didn’t have it as a kid and mainly see kids using it.

I could see this being why these generations see video games as a mark of maturity, and if they are still trying to gain the approval of their parents in their head, why they lump tv’s and movies in there too.