Comments on: Which of these two response are Christ like?

By: Fruit for thought. « Love without Agenda

Fruit for thought. « Love without Agenda — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 11:55:56 +0000

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By: chris

chris — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:12:23 +0000

Tim have you heard the talk at the tabernacle? I would gladly forward you my c.d.’s of the entire session if you would like.

By: amy

amy — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:49:47 +0000

Tim,
“You, obviously, havenâ€™t been listening to what Mormons are saying.”

You’re right, I haven’t. But I would imagine that some of them may be calling themselves brothers. Is this what you’re saying, and is that the case with the Ravi Z dialogue?

If they are calling themselves brothers, then there are certainly all kinds of scriptures that would apply to Christians not acting as if they are brothers.

Is that what Ravi Z was doing? I really don’t know.

By: Tim Reed

Tim Reed — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:24:04 +0000

You, obviously, haven’t been listening to what Mormons are saying.

By: Henry (Rick) Frueh

Henry (Rick) Frueh — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:20:35 +0000

If a preacher accepts an invitation to speak in either a Mormon or gay church, and they agree he can say anything he feels led to, I don’t see the problem. Paul spoke in unbelieving synagogues and in the humanistic gathering at Mars Hill (where Rob Bell’s great, great, etc. grandfather was an elder).

A friend of mine who is to the right of me methodologically wrote me and asked why I allowed Chris L. to post my writings since it can be misinterpreted as a tacit approval of everything on this blog. Besides the fact that I respect and love Chris L. as a brother, I told him if someone asked my permission to hang up one of my articles on a gay bathhouse wall I would say “Sure!”.

By: amy

amy — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:03:38 +0000

Regarding Ravi Z, like I said I’m not all that familiar with the situation there.

The main problem in Tim’s bringing it up as a parallel to the Mclaren/speaking at a gay church issue is this:

The pastors at the Open Door church fit into the I Cor 5 category. That passage’s teaching applies to someone who calls himself a brother but is living in immorality. The Mormon teachers don’t claim to be “Christian brothers” and I Cor 5 doesn’t apply to them. I’m sure there are other passages that do apply to the Ravi/Mormon situation; I haven’t thought through all of them.

Even if the Ravi Z situation were parallel to the Mclaren situation, my judgement of whether what he did was biblical or not should not affect the “rightness” or the “wrongness” of the Mclaren situation. That is, God’s Word is God’s Word, no matter how consistently or inconsistently Christians apply it.

By: chris

chris — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 02:00:06 +0000

Julie I personally enjoy your comments. In fact I’m kinda jealous that I’m not nearly as articulate as you are.

Amy I enjoy your comments as well they actually make me think. I don’t agree with you often but I appreciate the dialogue you offer.

Keith and Rick you guys are funny!

By the way I’m still punching people in the face. Open handed now because “Punches with fist” told me this was biblical. LOL

By: Julie

Julie — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:51:36 +0000

Thank you, Henry (Rick). I was feeling kind of sore inside. So thank you.

By: Henry (Rick) Frueh

Henry (Rick) Frueh — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:18:48 +0000

Listen Julie, it may be plain but anyone who reads your blog knows it surely isn’t simple.

I appreciate you love for Christ and your inconvenient love for the people of Central America.

By: Julie

Julie — Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:03:26 +0000

Chris L: I’m a jerk, plain and simple.

To know me is to throw names at me.