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	<title>Comments on: Tattoo You</title>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/08/23/tattoo-you/comment-page-1/#comment-14594</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim:
I actually have no problem ministering to those who have a real need--even illegals. Feed them, help them, but at the same time, encourage them/help them to obey the laws by becoming legal. Harboring (sanctuary in a church building) illegals in the name of ministry--I&#039;m not buying it.

I think I actually just agreed with you...a little.  8^)&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim:<br />
I actually have no problem ministering to those who have a real need&#8211;even illegals. Feed them, help them, but at the same time, encourage them/help them to obey the laws by becoming legal. Harboring (sanctuary in a church building) illegals in the name of ministry&#8211;I&#8217;m not buying it.</p>
<p>I think I actually just agreed with you&#8230;a little.  8^)&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iggy,
A better verse would be the &lt;a href=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&amp;chapter=19&amp;verse=16&amp;version=31&amp;context=verse rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Revelation 19:16 passage.&lt;/a&gt;

Also, I think Rick and Keith are arguing past each other.  One is arguing for gov&#039;t policy the other is arguing for what we do on a day to day basis.  It is possible to adopt both the position that the gov&#039;t should enforce immigration laws (depending on teh specifics) and that we should minister to illegals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iggy,<br />
A better verse would be the <a href=http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&#038;chapter=19&#038;verse=16&#038;version=31&#038;context=verse rel="nofollow">Revelation 19:16 passage.</a></p>
<p>Also, I think Rick and Keith are arguing past each other.  One is arguing for gov&#8217;t policy the other is arguing for what we do on a day to day basis.  It is possible to adopt both the position that the gov&#8217;t should enforce immigration laws (depending on teh specifics) and that we should minister to illegals.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/08/23/tattoo-you/comment-page-1/#comment-14591</link>
		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So would Jesus have been justified in taking his taxes and feeding the poor?

Henry: If someone were breaking into your house, uninvited-- does it make that act any more or less legal if he&#039;s doing so to steal food? How do you deal with illegals that have lived in the USA for 15 years, then when they&#039;re caught and threatened with deportation, they want to cry-baby about how racist people are? 

I don&#039;t know where you get your info, but around here, many of the illegals, especially those in the building industry, are being paid cash under the table--no taxes, no SS, etc.-- then sending huge chunks of it back to Mexico. There are two businesses in our area that make HUGE profits just for wiring money for the illegals. The transfer is always under $1000--no ID required--most around $400 to $500 AND the businesses report transfers of over $100000 PER WEEK! 

Iggy: Interesting &quot;point&quot;, but if that verse supports tattoos, am I also to understand that everytime the wind blows, it&#039;s because God sneezes? (Ps 18:15) or that God enjoys a good cigar from time-to-time? (Ps 18:8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So would Jesus have been justified in taking his taxes and feeding the poor?</p>
<p>Henry: If someone were breaking into your house, uninvited&#8211; does it make that act any more or less legal if he&#8217;s doing so to steal food? How do you deal with illegals that have lived in the USA for 15 years, then when they&#8217;re caught and threatened with deportation, they want to cry-baby about how racist people are? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you get your info, but around here, many of the illegals, especially those in the building industry, are being paid cash under the table&#8211;no taxes, no SS, etc.&#8211; then sending huge chunks of it back to Mexico. There are two businesses in our area that make HUGE profits just for wiring money for the illegals. The transfer is always under $1000&#8211;no ID required&#8211;most around $400 to $500 AND the businesses report transfers of over $100000 PER WEEK! </p>
<p>Iggy: Interesting &#8220;point&#8221;, but if that verse supports tattoos, am I also to understand that everytime the wind blows, it&#8217;s because God sneezes? (Ps 18:15) or that God enjoys a good cigar from time-to-time? (Ps 18:8)</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/08/23/tattoo-you/comment-page-1/#comment-14582</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim - a good question. What are the parameters of the law? Is it illegal to know who are illegal and not report them? Is it illegal to help them if you know? People attempt to escape Cuba and technically when they arrive here they are illegal.

The law and the motives are convoluted, I just see them through Golgotha&#039;s eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim &#8211; a good question. What are the parameters of the law? Is it illegal to know who are illegal and not report them? Is it illegal to help them if you know? People attempt to escape Cuba and technically when they arrive here they are illegal.</p>
<p>The law and the motives are convoluted, I just see them through Golgotha&#8217;s eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, not that this thread has been hijacked or anything... but God has a tattoo.... it is a picture of you on His hands.

Isaiah 49: 16.  See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are ever before me. 

Be Blessed!
iggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, not that this thread has been hijacked or anything&#8230; but God has a tattoo&#8230;. it is a picture of you on His hands.</p>
<p>Isaiah 49: 16.  See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are ever before me. </p>
<p>Be Blessed!<br />
iggy</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it possible to both minister to illegal aliens, and uphold the law?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it possible to both minister to illegal aliens, and uphold the law?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, I&#039;m not trying to &quot;slap&quot; mission field on anything, the entire world is first and foremost a mission field. We are to obey the laws as long as they do not countermand God&#039;s laws, but we should never see people through American eyes. I know it is a touchy situation in the arena of politics, but we of all people should show mercy.

And if the government passes a law that assimilates the twelve million or so illegal aliens, will we all be happy and content to obey that law? You see, it isn&#039;t the law that is misplaced, it sometimes is our hearts.

FYI - most working illegal aliens make less than corresponding American workers, most illegal workers pay taxes, the 15% social security they pay they will never collect, they buy food, clothing, gas, and housing here with their money, and the uninsured medical emergencies that burden the system cannot compare to the &quot;I have a hangnail&quot; co-pay insurance burden that Americans abuse.

And now the way the media quickly reports a drunk driver as an illegal alien smacks of subtle racism in the light that 95% of drunk drivers, murderers, and other criminals are legal aliens and American citizens. It is a transparent attemmpt to paint them in an unfavorable light and press the political agenda in a certain way. We as Christians should not be a part of the whole secular mess, our agenda is infinitely higher than that.

One man&#039;s opinion without tears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, I&#8217;m not trying to &#8220;slap&#8221; mission field on anything, the entire world is first and foremost a mission field. We are to obey the laws as long as they do not countermand God&#8217;s laws, but we should never see people through American eyes. I know it is a touchy situation in the arena of politics, but we of all people should show mercy.</p>
<p>And if the government passes a law that assimilates the twelve million or so illegal aliens, will we all be happy and content to obey that law? You see, it isn&#8217;t the law that is misplaced, it sometimes is our hearts.</p>
<p>FYI &#8211; most working illegal aliens make less than corresponding American workers, most illegal workers pay taxes, the 15% social security they pay they will never collect, they buy food, clothing, gas, and housing here with their money, and the uninsured medical emergencies that burden the system cannot compare to the &#8220;I have a hangnail&#8221; co-pay insurance burden that Americans abuse.</p>
<p>And now the way the media quickly reports a drunk driver as an illegal alien smacks of subtle racism in the light that 95% of drunk drivers, murderers, and other criminals are legal aliens and American citizens. It is a transparent attemmpt to paint them in an unfavorable light and press the political agenda in a certain way. We as Christians should not be a part of the whole secular mess, our agenda is infinitely higher than that.</p>
<p>One man&#8217;s opinion without tears.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jesus said: &quot;Give to Caesar what is Caesar&#039;s.&quot; (Matt 17:24ff) Peter said: &quot;Submit yourselves for the Lord&#039;s sake to every human institution...&quot; (1 Pe 2:13ff). I&#039;ll probably be told I&#039;ve &quot;missed the point&quot;, &quot;misunderstood the context&quot;, &quot;failed to go back to the original Greek&quot;, etc, but from my dumb ol&#039; country boy, cursory read--looks like we&#039;re told to obey the laws of the land. Obviously, if the laws are in contridiction to Scripture (e.g. Acts 5:29), that&#039;s another issue.

&quot;Illegal Immigrant&quot; implies exactly what it says: &quot;Illegal.&quot; I understand why the Mexican people want to come to America. I know of several that have--but they have done so &lt;b&gt;legally!&lt;/b&gt; Just last month, an Hispanic man from our church became an American citizen at a naturalization ceremony. He invited me to attend, which I did. It was an amazing and moving ceremony as 38 people from 18 different countries denounced (via the pledge) their country of origin and pledged their allegience t the United States of America. He WANTED to be an American. Many of the Hispanics in our area DO NOT want to be American--they just want the American benefits. 

I&#039;m not a racist. My bro-in-law is married to a foreign (legal) woman. My best friend is Hispanic and even he is outraged by the influx of illegals and the people that defend their &quot;right&quot; to be here. 

Sorry, Henry. Your slapping &quot;mission field&quot; on the situation doesn&#039;t make it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus said: &#8220;Give to Caesar what is Caesar&#8217;s.&#8221; (Matt 17:24ff) Peter said: &#8220;Submit yourselves for the Lord&#8217;s sake to every human institution&#8230;&#8221; (1 Pe 2:13ff). I&#8217;ll probably be told I&#8217;ve &#8220;missed the point&#8221;, &#8220;misunderstood the context&#8221;, &#8220;failed to go back to the original Greek&#8221;, etc, but from my dumb ol&#8217; country boy, cursory read&#8211;looks like we&#8217;re told to obey the laws of the land. Obviously, if the laws are in contridiction to Scripture (e.g. Acts 5:29), that&#8217;s another issue.</p>
<p>&#8220;Illegal Immigrant&#8221; implies exactly what it says: &#8220;Illegal.&#8221; I understand why the Mexican people want to come to America. I know of several that have&#8211;but they have done so <b>legally!</b> Just last month, an Hispanic man from our church became an American citizen at a naturalization ceremony. He invited me to attend, which I did. It was an amazing and moving ceremony as 38 people from 18 different countries denounced (via the pledge) their country of origin and pledged their allegience t the United States of America. He WANTED to be an American. Many of the Hispanics in our area DO NOT want to be American&#8211;they just want the American benefits. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a racist. My bro-in-law is married to a foreign (legal) woman. My best friend is Hispanic and even he is outraged by the influx of illegals and the people that defend their &#8220;right&#8221; to be here. </p>
<p>Sorry, Henry. Your slapping &#8220;mission field&#8221; on the situation doesn&#8217;t make it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry Frueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may be a possibility that one day as we stand before God and attempt to justify why we did not go to the foreign mission field we will say, &quot;I did not feel called to Mexico&quot;. And the Lord just may say to us,

&quot;I brought the Mexican mission field TO you, and you were more worried about you property than you were their souls!&quot;

On that day, without the camouflage of commenting among goofballs like me, what will we tell the Lord? Please brothers and sisters, eternal priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may be a possibility that one day as we stand before God and attempt to justify why we did not go to the foreign mission field we will say, &#8220;I did not feel called to Mexico&#8221;. And the Lord just may say to us,</p>
<p>&#8220;I brought the Mexican mission field TO you, and you were more worried about you property than you were their souls!&#8221;</p>
<p>On that day, without the camouflage of commenting among goofballs like me, what will we tell the Lord? Please brothers and sisters, eternal priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith,

OK, I&#039;ll bite:  what do you mean by:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Jesus and Peter got that one wrong too I think&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I assume I am not to literally take this one, but I&#039;m struggling for the point of the satire here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith,</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;ll bite:  what do you mean by:</p>
<blockquote><p>Jesus and Peter got that one wrong too I think</p></blockquote>
<p>I assume I am not to literally take this one, but I&#8217;m struggling for the point of the satire here&#8230;</p>
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