(The following is a repost of a August 31 article which may have been accidentally deleted.  Unfortunately, the comments which appeared with this post have not yet been recovered).

Chris L.
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I don’t normally go back and bring up past issues, but you gotta hear this.  Even after he was given hard core evidence here, and in his own comment section, that Saddleback and Rick Warren use scripture and biblical material within the contexts of commitment cards, small groups, campaigns, etc., this radio host refuses to accept that he may have tainted the picture.  He even admits before he begins the segment that his sarcasm will be added for emphasis, and it is amazing the claims that he makes.  I encourage you to take a listen (starting at minute 29:00).  It will give you good insight into the thinking pattern (or lack there of) of these ODMs