Is it just me, or is CRN getting more and more ridiculous with the claims they are making against so-called emergent leaders? Ken Silva criticizes McManus for this quote in relevant magazine

Well, I build my life not on the Word of God, but the voice of God. The Scriptures are to me the instrument that God has placed in history for me to learn the voice of God. I treasure the Scriptures. (emphasis mine)

I am trying to see how this statement would warrant a title like “Erwin McManus: Building His Life Not on the Word of God but on Subjective Experience.” However, as usual, the Christian [bad]Research Network failed to add this quote given right before this one in the article

Knowing God, knowing His heart, knowing His character is really about falling passionately in love with God and experiencing His love. Of course, there are dynamics to that: the Scriptures are essential. God speaks through the cosmos, God speaks through creation, God speaks through human experience and conscience, God speaks through everything, yes—but I do see the Scriptures as the primary access, a portal into God’s presence. I began to have a clear sense of God’s voice in my life through reading the Scriptures and hearing God’s voice through the Scriptures. (emphasis mine)

Ken closes the article with a few juvenile and ridiculous jabs at Erwin. First Ken says that Mcmanus is a “darling” of his very own denomination (the Slowly Becomnng Catholic, as Silva says… original spelling from his site). Let me be clear on this. Ken attempts to discredit McManus, accuses him of being a loved person within Silva’s own denomination, and finally attempts to discredit his own denomination with petty and unmerited name calling. As stated here before, if the SBC was becoming catholic, then Ken is in sin by his own standards.

Silva then describes McManus as a “distinguished furturist, lead guitarist pastor and cultural architect”. While I have yet to figure out what a furturist is, I have also yet to find where McManus (or anyone else for that manner) describes himself as a guitarist. Silva must have stuck that out because re realized it wouldn’t be proper to publish information without proper research. That’s it. And, since Silva recommended some reading for McManus, I would suggest this for him.

John 10:14-16 & 27
I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me— just as the Father knows me and I know the Father—and I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.

for the record, 100% of the information/research links were to Silva’s own website. I am going to try that in my next seminary paper due. I think I’ll start it out with “According to me…”

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1   Tyler    http://tearingbooksapart.blogspot.com
October 1st, 2007 at 7:20 pm

“According to me…” = HOT
Excellent post. You really have to come down and ask yourself, are the scriptures primarily authoritative because they are the scriptures or are they authoritative because they have been given by God.

2   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
October 1st, 2007 at 7:52 pm

I believe you have shown, Nathan, that the quote was taken out of context and other quotes within the same article would have cleared it up – if that is what you desired.

3   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
October 1st, 2007 at 8:14 pm

Excellent article, Nathan. It’s nice to see what actual Christian research looks like…

4   iggy    http://wordofmouthministries.blogspot.com/
October 1st, 2007 at 8:35 pm

“I build my life not on the Word of God, but the voice of God. The Scriptures are to me the instrument that God has placed in history for me to learn the voice of God. I treasure the Scriptures.”

I am having trouble trying to see what Ken is even criticizing. That McManus states he hears the voice of God? That we should filter the voice of God through the Bible?

I think that is less scary than following one’s own feelings like Ken Silva…

“When my friend Chris Rosebrough of the Christian Accountability Network first approached me with this whole issue of America’s Purpose Driven MegaPastor Rick Warren claiming to be Rupert Murdoch pastor I felt led of the Lord to become involved.”

http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=1824

Now, I cannot understand why Ken is against believers listening to God’s voice…

John 10: 1-4 “I tell you the truth, the man who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. The man who enters by the gate is the shepherd of his sheep. The watchman opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice. He calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. When he has brought out all his own, he goes on ahead of them, and his sheep follow him because they know his voice.
John 10:14-16 “I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me– just as the Father knows me and I know the Father–and I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.

John 10: 27-28. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand.

Maybe the real issue is that someone is NOT hearing God’s voice.

Be Blessed,
iggy

5   JohnD    
October 1st, 2007 at 11:18 pm

Nathan,
Excellent! “Juvenile” is the descriptor that resonated the most with me. I find myself having to bite my blogging tongue more and more when it comes to the inanity of Ken’s diatribes. Webster’s definition of inanity is particularly appropriate at this juncture:

1 : the quality or state of being inane : as a : lack of substance : EMPTINESS b : vapid, pointless, or fatuous character : SHALLOWNESS
2 : something that is inane