CR?N Editor: Factions In the Church are a Good Thing – Wait! What?
In a bizarro-world sort of logic, CR?N has posted an article which seems to combine schadenfruede and misplaced belief in the ‘rightness’ of factions within the church.
Referenced is this article in which Frank Page, the head of the SBC, expressed concern over divisions within the denomination:
“There are forces at work today to try to divide and distract Baptists from our primary mission. We cannot allow methodological differences, generational gaps, or stylistic preferences to divide us,” said state convention president Willy Rice, according to Florida Baptist Witness. “We need each other and we truly are better when we are together.”
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“There’s a lot of negativity out there toward religious groups, and certainly toward our group, because we’ve apparently come across as very legalistic and mean-spirited, and I think that’s sometimes accurate, because sometimes we’ve acted that way” [emphasis mine]
You will note that division over doctrinal differences is not what is being addressed, and that it is orthopraxy being self-criticized, not orthodoxy. [To be fair, I would hold some concerns about this particular convention, since Bill Clinton and Al Gore are invited, but that's a whole other topic...] The divisions being discussed are, to reiterate: a) differences in method; b) differences in generational expectations; c) stylistic preferences. Hmmmm… I don’t see ‘heretical doctrine’ in that list.
In addition, it appears that the mysterious “Editor” is using a different Bible than the rest of us.
…for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized. (1 Corinthians 11:20) [emphasis theirs]
When I look up 1 Corinthians 11:20 in my Bible, I get this:
When you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat,
That’s odd. So I did a bit of searching for the passage that perhaps they meant to quote, starting with the query of ‘factions’. Perhaps they meant 2 Corinthians 12:20:
For I am afraid that when I come I may not find you as I want you to be, and you may not find me as you want me to be. I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, factions, slander, gossip, arrogance and disorder.
Well, the verse number is similar, but the message from Paul seems to be the opposite of what the CR?N writer wishes us to believe the Bible says, though the subject of its criticism fits right in line for that ODM’s like CR?N seem to be striving for.
Perhaps they meant Galatians 5:19-21:
The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Well, no, that doesn’t work either, because it again suggests the very opposite of what the “Editor” was suggesting, but fits right in with the turf ODM’s like CR?N frequently inhabit. So perhaps they were using a different translation. So I checked the NASB and found that they were trying to cite 1 Corintians 11:19 (one verse off). Here it is in the NIV:
No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God’s approval.
OK. So what’s Paul talking about here? Let’s check this out in context (1 Corinthians 11:17-22)
In the following directives I have no praise for you, for your meetings do more harm than good. In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God’s approval. When you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat, for as you eat, each of you goes ahead without waiting for anybody else. One remains hungry, another gets drunk. Don’t you have homes to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you for this? Certainly not!
Hmmm. This doesn’t seem like a discussion on doctrinal differences at all, but rather a rebuke for piggish behavior when the body has come together for a feast in celebration of the Lord’s Supper. The verse in question (number 19) has been suggested by some commentators to be sarcasm, but most see it referring back to the situation Paul refers to in 1 Corinthians 1:10-12, and not to division cause by false teaching:
I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. My brothers, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[Peter]“; still another, “I follow Christ.”
Note what Paul says in verse 10 (emphasized above) – That he desires unity within the church! Well, I suppose I can understand why the “Editor” wishes to remain anonymous after seeing this attempted prooftexting of scripture to support something condemned by Paul.
One of our commenters recently noted that perhaps the only reason more than half of the articles/posters on CR?N hide behind the cloak of anonymity is because we have criticized it, pointing out its lack of accountability and observed abuse. If that is the case, it is just a micro-example of the marcro problem with CR?N and ODM’s like it: the desire to shove one’s thumb in the eye of a brother, when given the chance, outweighs the biblical morality of doing the right thing.






11 Comments(+Add)
It’s always amazing to me how the “editor” has the ability to quote Scripture to make it say something entirely different, or in this case – the total opposite, of what it says. Mindboggling, really.
He or she has fixed the reference.
Fixed or not, it’s still prooftexted…
Yeah, I agree
Absolutely Paul was being sarcastic. And from such a sarcastic lot as Ken and Co, you’d think they’d pick up on that.
Amazing that they could use a verse to make the exact opposite point of the passage… Wow.
Bob and all…
you leave those people alone! They’re just reading the “plain meaning” of the text. They’re fighting the Truth War!
NC,
The biggest problems they seem to have in their “Truth War” is that:
a) God isn’t calling for a civil war within the church;
b) They’ve gone and left the Truth behind
If we’re engaged in a “Truth War”, then the “editor” hasn’t even made it out of Basic Training yet…
The problem I have with such terminology is that it gives an impression of superiority instead of humility, even when there has always been a necessity to confront error within the church. It assumes you have the entire truth and instead of calling for brokenness and prayer, it calls for “war” without any mention of correction much less reconciliation.
Also there is a subjective catagorizing of which error must be confronted and which can be absorbed. The fact that some in MacArthur’s circle teach salvation through baptism and he will not bring that into the war smacks of partiality.
If indeed a massive departure of differing degrees is taking place and even gaining momentum, then why aren’t the churches that see it open every night for prayer? Why don’t we see any weeping in the yearly shepherd’s conferences? Why is the war only one of ink and paper, keyboards and screens, and not such an ecclesiastical shaking that there is a marked change in the behavior of those truth soldiers that would authenticate their concerns?
If the entire church is in a crisis of truth, why are the churches that see such a thing going about their busniss as they did twenty years ago? Sure there is a lot to “amen” about on Sunday morning, but does it develope into elongated seasons of prayer that go beyond the allotted Sunday morning time frame?
If you are just operating as usual then your expressions of truth war is nothing more than self serving hyperbole that massages the choir but does not result in any demonstrative action that would indicate pathos or brokenness of heart, it just means you see a drifting and are able to articulate it. Not much to that.
Rick,
My issue is that JM seems to miss that Jesus IS the Truth and He is not at war but has passed on the ministry of reconciliation to us… yet and we are to contend for the fiath… contend is to strive for…
JM teaches we are to “defend” the truth… and if Jesus is truth how can any mere man defend Jesus? Also, it states nowhere in scripture to “defend” truth… it says we are to contend for the faith..
The difference between defend and contend is this…
A champion boxer defends his title… but a contender strives to win the title but has yet to attain it.
We are to defend the Gospel. but that defense is not about bashing people with “truth” rather, it is about being ready to give an answer to the hope (Jesus) that is within us. And we are to do this with humility and gentleness and not be like the world whose tool is of Satan called “war”.
God is not the father of war. Satan is, for he is the destroyer… God is the Creator… to declare war is to align oneself on the side of Satan.
Now, before one quotes a passage about God telling the Hebrews to “kill them all” it was because God promised to curse those who curse them and bless those who blessed them… and on occasion a pagan people who did no know God, were blessed by Him… as in the case of Jonah.
God is not about war… he is the God of Peace… of Love and reconciliation… to attach a satanic thing as war is an abomination.
God is our defender and Truth needs no defending as it is more powerful than lies just as darkness flees the Light.
I just cannot see how one can justify war and declare it in God’s name… God fulfills His promises and all the wars in he OT are about keeping the promise to Abraham so that God’s grace will be known to all men.
Be Blessed,
iggy
Hi Rick,
I quite agree with you, but also I think you’ll find that people are indeed in weeping a prayer over the situation – it’s just that they are a minority and so not seen.