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	<title>Comments on: Osteen, Driscoll and Watchdoggies</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/10/18/osteen-driscoll-and-watchdoggies/comment-page-1/#comment-22949</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dismantling Osteen&#039;s theology. Let&#039;s see, how long does it take to quote five verses? His is not theology, it is sociology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dismantling Osteen&#8217;s theology. Let&#8217;s see, how long does it take to quote five verses? His is not theology, it is sociology.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendt</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/10/18/osteen-driscoll-and-watchdoggies/comment-page-1/#comment-22757</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

Ah.  That makes sense -- the 10/9 podcast of the 10/7 sermon.

One more reason to look forward to heaven -- time won&#039;t have meaning and life will be less confusing.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>Ah.  That makes sense &#8212; the 10/9 podcast of the 10/7 sermon.</p>
<p>One more reason to look forward to heaven &#8212; time won&#8217;t have meaning and life will be less confusing.  <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/10/18/osteen-driscoll-and-watchdoggies/comment-page-1/#comment-22735</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the very least it shows the fundamental dishonesty in preventing conversation from taking place.  Were there comments there, then that&#039;d be exactly where we&#039;d see some disagreements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the very least it shows the fundamental dishonesty in preventing conversation from taking place.  Were there comments there, then that&#8217;d be exactly where we&#8217;d see some disagreements.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/10/18/osteen-driscoll-and-watchdoggies/comment-page-1/#comment-22733</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it was the mysterious &#039;editor&#039; - which could be multiple peolpe - and it could reveal differences of opinion on the part of the writers there.  Or, it could demonstrate rank hypocrisy of a single individuals.  With the lack of accountability via the &#039;editor&#039; function, it will just have the appearance of the latter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it was the mysterious &#8216;editor&#8217; &#8211; which could be multiple peolpe &#8211; and it could reveal differences of opinion on the part of the writers there.  Or, it could demonstrate rank hypocrisy of a single individuals.  With the lack of accountability via the &#8216;editor&#8217; function, it will just have the appearance of the latter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/10/18/osteen-driscoll-and-watchdoggies/comment-page-1/#comment-22731</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t take a lesson from Dr. Walter Martin, I doubt they&#039;ll take it from Driscoll.

Its hilarious that within a week or so of each other they can condemn him for being a potty mouth, and a sign of the disrespect the new pastors have for God, adn then the next week have a Driscoll pep rally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t take a lesson from Dr. Walter Martin, I doubt they&#8217;ll take it from Driscoll.</p>
<p>Its hilarious that within a week or so of each other they can condemn him for being a potty mouth, and a sign of the disrespect the new pastors have for God, adn then the next week have a Driscoll pep rally.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/10/18/osteen-driscoll-and-watchdoggies/comment-page-1/#comment-22729</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice CR?N has a link to a Driscoll clip from this series, which included his initial comments recognizing Osteen as a brother before tackling the &lt;strong&gt;message&lt;/strong&gt; from Osteen, in (as you noted, Tim) efficient, overwhelming fashion.  

Nowhere in there did I hear the words &quot;apostate&quot;, &quot;&#039;false&#039; Christians&quot;, or the other common ODM catch-phrases...

Maybe they&#039;ll take a lesson from Mark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice CR?N has a link to a Driscoll clip from this series, which included his initial comments recognizing Osteen as a brother before tackling the <strong>message</strong> from Osteen, in (as you noted, Tim) efficient, overwhelming fashion.  </p>
<p>Nowhere in there did I hear the words &#8220;apostate&#8221;, &#8220;&#8216;false&#8217; Christians&#8221;, or the other common ODM catch-phrases&#8230;</p>
<p>Maybe they&#8217;ll take a lesson from Mark?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken just does it because Jesus tells him to. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken just does it because Jesus tells him to. <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,


&lt;blockquote&gt; You guys spend no end of time personally attacking individuals yourselves (though fully justified Iâ€™m sure). &lt;/blockquote&gt;

At risk of sounding Drisconian, WHAT A CROCK!

I not only stated that I did not agree with Ken Silva&#039;s theology I stated that it was because it was confusing... then note I also stated:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Ken Silva can do this, I know he can. I know he can drop the personal attacks and name calling and attack the others theology and not their person. I wonder though if may he is not grounded in his own theology enough to be able to do this. Sometimes he is Calvinist, and other times he has a broader view. It just seems to morph into whatever he needs at the moment to attack the other person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

YEP that is me, iggy... the guy Ingrid says flames everyone. The guy that Ken Silva says is not saved then hand me a rose in the place of an apology, the guy the Chris P. tell to &quot;Just shut up&quot; cuz I quote what he says... yep me... iggy being soooo mean that I think Ken can strive to be better... oh the humanity of it all! Notice I never stated EVER that Ken is not saved, or anything less than a brother in Christ... oh but we trash his person... 

Hogwash... you have to try much harder to find a &quot;personal attack&quot; anything close to what Ken spews out on a daily basis...

Personally I feel you are attacking us on a personal level and so that includes you in the hypocrisy... 

Now, seriously I can go to about any post by Ken Silva and find a derogatory statement about someone else... and I bet it would be much harder to do that here... even if you parse through all my own statements... Now, I am nto perfect, but I am far from calling Ken names... And if I do it is  to point out that the names &lt;strong&gt;he is calling others&lt;/strong&gt; seem to fit him and his own theology as well.

Be Blessed,
iggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<blockquote><p> You guys spend no end of time personally attacking individuals yourselves (though fully justified Iâ€™m sure). </p></blockquote>
<p>At risk of sounding Drisconian, WHAT A CROCK!</p>
<p>I not only stated that I did not agree with Ken Silva&#8217;s theology I stated that it was because it was confusing&#8230; then note I also stated:</p>
<blockquote><p>Ken Silva can do this, I know he can. I know he can drop the personal attacks and name calling and attack the others theology and not their person. I wonder though if may he is not grounded in his own theology enough to be able to do this. Sometimes he is Calvinist, and other times he has a broader view. It just seems to morph into whatever he needs at the moment to attack the other person.</p></blockquote>
<p>YEP that is me, iggy&#8230; the guy Ingrid says flames everyone. The guy that Ken Silva says is not saved then hand me a rose in the place of an apology, the guy the Chris P. tell to &#8220;Just shut up&#8221; cuz I quote what he says&#8230; yep me&#8230; iggy being soooo mean that I think Ken can strive to be better&#8230; oh the humanity of it all! Notice I never stated EVER that Ken is not saved, or anything less than a brother in Christ&#8230; oh but we trash his person&#8230; </p>
<p>Hogwash&#8230; you have to try much harder to find a &#8220;personal attack&#8221; anything close to what Ken spews out on a daily basis&#8230;</p>
<p>Personally I feel you are attacking us on a personal level and so that includes you in the hypocrisy&#8230; </p>
<p>Now, seriously I can go to about any post by Ken Silva and find a derogatory statement about someone else&#8230; and I bet it would be much harder to do that here&#8230; even if you parse through all my own statements&#8230; Now, I am nto perfect, but I am far from calling Ken names&#8230; And if I do it is  to point out that the names <strong>he is calling others</strong> seem to fit him and his own theology as well.</p>
<p>Be Blessed,<br />
iggy</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/10/18/osteen-driscoll-and-watchdoggies/comment-page-1/#comment-22681</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler,
Looking back on the thread you should be &lt;3ing NC. 

BTW, I loved the bit you posted about Augustine&#039;s retractions.  I didn&#039;t realize that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler,<br />
Looking back on the thread you should be &lt;3ing NC. </p>
<p>BTW, I loved the bit you posted about Augustine&#8217;s retractions.  I didn&#8217;t realize that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/10/18/osteen-driscoll-and-watchdoggies/comment-page-1/#comment-22680</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendt,
10/9 was the day it was posted to their RSS feed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendt,<br />
10/9 was the day it was posted to their RSS feed.</p>
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