Comments on: Hating the Bride and Cursing Her House

By: nc

nc — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:04:57 +0000

People may be headed to Hell in unprecedented numbers in our generation,

This is one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever heard.
It reveals a real lack of historical perspective.
Ever heard of the “wide path”?

It means a load of people sitting in the pew during that evangelical golden age 1950-whatever died and went to hell.

Enjoy that today…
and use it to get over yourselves.

oy.

By: Phil Miller

Phil Miller — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:20:11 +0000

TB,
Well my point wasn’t to make a distinction between the two, really. I believe the mission of the local church should be the same as the universal Church. I don’t disagree with your assertion that it’s mission is to glorify God. I just think that God is most glorified when His true character is revealed by the Church blessing the rest of the world as Chris explained in his response.

By: Timothy Bell

Timothy Bell — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:13:07 +0000

Phil,
Note the small “c” in church, not Church. I agree with your definition that the “C”hurch is the universal body of Christ.

I feel like the monkey in the middle of shifting definitions on this blog. I see the phrase, “but you’re missing the point” quite often here.

By: Phil Miller

Phil Miller — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:02:44 +0000

TB,
The Church is by definition is the collection of all believers on earth. To call it a place or a system somewhat misses the point, I believe.

By: Timothy Bell

Timothy Bell — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:53:45 +0000

The purpose of the church is to glorify God, and give individual Christians (not unbelievers) a place and system by which they can be edified and equipped to carry out the Great Commission.

By: Chris L

Chris L — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:48:17 +0000

Iâ€™d think the extent of a churchâ€™s focus on the environmental agenda would determine whether or not they are losing focus on their true mission of serving the body of Christ.

The true mission of the church is NOT in serving the body of Christ (i.e. serving itself). The mission of the church is to be a blessing to the rest of the world so that the world will know that our God is the one true God. This "being a blessing" would include stewardship of His creation.

By: Phil Miller

Phil Miller — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:46:59 +0000

TB,
I never imagined I’d see someone make book-burning (or CD burning) an environmental issue…

Perhaps the government will start regulating preaching because of all the hot air released as well.

By: Timothy Bell

Timothy Bell — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:39:12 +0000

I too do not believe much about the global warming spiel put out for there always have been variances in temperatures throughout history. But I’m not for deliberate or ignorant pollution of the environment either.

Maybe the alliance between NAE and the federal government is aimed at breaking up the mega-churches and their extensive use of air-conditioning and toilet water? Smaller churches wouldn’t be considered wasteful since they operate on limited/tight budgets (and therefore already look to cut waste)? Should churches that burn rock records and CDs and releasing toxins in the air be required to just crush them instead?

I’d think the extent of a church’s focus on the environmental agenda would determine whether or not they are losing focus on their true mission of serving the body of Christ.