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	<title>Comments on: Why do watchdoggies fear conversation?</title>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/16/why-do-watchdoggies-fear-conversation/comment-page-2/#comment-29030</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz,
We&#039;re not better because we allow comments, just closer to the Biblical imperative in Matthew 18. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;I donâ€™t think that simply because they donâ€™t run their blogs like other people that such as is a justified reason for criticism. Those is, after all, their own sites, and they may choose to do what they wish with them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sure, the same argument could be made if they decided to post porn, but that has nothing to do with how Christians should run their blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz,<br />
We&#8217;re not better because we allow comments, just closer to the Biblical imperative in Matthew 18. </p>
<blockquote><p>I donâ€™t think that simply because they donâ€™t run their blogs like other people that such as is a justified reason for criticism. Those is, after all, their own sites, and they may choose to do what they wish with them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, the same argument could be made if they decided to post porn, but that has nothing to do with how Christians should run their blogs.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/16/why-do-watchdoggies-fear-conversation/comment-page-2/#comment-29015</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, Phil. It is one thing to have a devotional site without comments, it&#039;s another thing to publicly rebuke and challenge and name call people without being challenged. It is cowardly on some level even though it is their choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Phil. It is one thing to have a devotional site without comments, it&#8217;s another thing to publicly rebuke and challenge and name call people without being challenged. It is cowardly on some level even though it is their choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Miller</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/16/why-do-watchdoggies-fear-conversation/comment-page-2/#comment-29014</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazz,
The point is that if someone is going to offer up critiques of certain people or movements, he should be man enough to accept and answer criticism that it generates. To not do is not only cowardly, but it ignores the way Jesus instructed us to handle differences in Matthew. Launching anonymous attacks at Christian brothers and sisters is hardly the way we are told to deal with issues.

Basically, it&#039;s the old axiom - they can dish it out, but they can&#039;t take it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazz,<br />
The point is that if someone is going to offer up critiques of certain people or movements, he should be man enough to accept and answer criticism that it generates. To not do is not only cowardly, but it ignores the way Jesus instructed us to handle differences in Matthew. Launching anonymous attacks at Christian brothers and sisters is hardly the way we are told to deal with issues.</p>
<p>Basically, it&#8217;s the old axiom &#8211; they can dish it out, but they can&#8217;t take it.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzact13</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/16/why-do-watchdoggies-fear-conversation/comment-page-2/#comment-29013</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzact13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of the five things listed in the OP, which of them is in itself wrong?

No, really, why are they or anyone else under obligation to do or not do any of those things?

For example, why should Old Truth not be allowed to exercise his right to choose who may link to his sight? Or why should they indiscrimately allow comments? The only one I would have problems with is the one about not linking to some sites they disagree with, and even with that I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;d have qualms about linking to some places.

I don&#039;t think that simply because they don&#039;t run their blogs like other people that such as is a justified reason for criticism. Those is, after all, their own sites, and they may choose to do what they wish with them.

That isn&#039;t a blanket commendation of all they do or say, only that I think it is not just to play this &#039;we are better then they are because we allow comments&#039; game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of the five things listed in the OP, which of them is in itself wrong?</p>
<p>No, really, why are they or anyone else under obligation to do or not do any of those things?</p>
<p>For example, why should Old Truth not be allowed to exercise his right to choose who may link to his sight? Or why should they indiscrimately allow comments? The only one I would have problems with is the one about not linking to some sites they disagree with, and even with that I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;d have qualms about linking to some places.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that simply because they don&#8217;t run their blogs like other people that such as is a justified reason for criticism. Those is, after all, their own sites, and they may choose to do what they wish with them.</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t a blanket commendation of all they do or say, only that I think it is not just to play this &#8216;we are better then they are because we allow comments&#8217; game.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Wirth</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/16/why-do-watchdoggies-fear-conversation/comment-page-2/#comment-28835</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Wirth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over at The No Goofy Zone I let opposing comments fly openly. (Even from Ken Copelands followers). I do not however publish posts where people use bad language. Even with publishing comment people very seldom stick on what the article states. Instead they go off on tangents on why I dont like their favorite teacher. Very seldom is the actual point of the article or my use of scripture a topic of debate.
So you gotta wonder.
Peace
Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over at The No Goofy Zone I let opposing comments fly openly. (Even from Ken Copelands followers). I do not however publish posts where people use bad language. Even with publishing comment people very seldom stick on what the article states. Instead they go off on tangents on why I dont like their favorite teacher. Very seldom is the actual point of the article or my use of scripture a topic of debate.<br />
So you gotta wonder.<br />
Peace<br />
Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inquisitor,

What it comes down to is accountability, and that we, as Christians, should be accountable to one another.   In taking a public platform from which to say all sorts of vile things &quot;in the name of Christ&quot; and then refusing any accountability in the form of feedback/comments (or compounding the unaccountability, in the case of CR?N, by making the vile postings anonymous) speaks volumes of difference.

If we were no different from those we seek to hold accountable in Christian love, you wouldn&#039;t be writing anything here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inquisitor,</p>
<p>What it comes down to is accountability, and that we, as Christians, should be accountable to one another.   In taking a public platform from which to say all sorts of vile things &#8220;in the name of Christ&#8221; and then refusing any accountability in the form of feedback/comments (or compounding the unaccountability, in the case of CR?N, by making the vile postings anonymous) speaks volumes of difference.</p>
<p>If we were no different from those we seek to hold accountable in Christian love, you wouldn&#8217;t be writing anything here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/16/why-do-watchdoggies-fear-conversation/comment-page-2/#comment-28474</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Even people that total less than a brood.&quot;

Funny. The brood has less to do with numbers than it does with a like kind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Even people that total less than a brood.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny. The brood has less to do with numbers than it does with a like kind.</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/16/why-do-watchdoggies-fear-conversation/comment-page-2/#comment-28468</link>
		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inquisitor,

I am tired of trying to explain.

I let these guys come to my personal blog and call me all sorts of names. I go to their blog to discuss and am called crazy for pointing out that what they have stated about a person is so far off it is laughable if not slander.

I am treated with disrespect as I feel you are marginally doing right now by not even trying to understand but only push your own view which seems to miss the difference between critiquing for betterment and criticizing just to &quot;b*tch&quot; with no room for the other to change.

I pointed out that Dan Kimball proved he was orthodox yet, Ken refused to give grace... I pointed out that I am told I am not saved, yet not anyone here that is for this blog would or has ever stated Ken of Ingrid is not.

I ahve held up what the Bible states... and some have criticised me for stating that Ken and Ingrid are not saved... yet I only stated they seem to &quot;fit&quot; what Paul stated here and gave the verse... the verse thus condemned by their own words and standard... I did not.

It seems that you cannot see that to critique in hope of betterment and out of love is not the same as to slander and attack and try to destroy the other out &quot;selfish ambition&quot; is nto the same.

I had called for a day of prayer and fasting out of love for Ken and Ken mocked me... I still pray daily for Ken and Ingrid and call others to do so. I call for reconciliation...

And that is the huge difference you miss.

The ODM&#039;s minister out of the ministry of death and condemnation of the law as they mix law and grace and I for one minister out of the ministry of reconciliation that has been given to us from Christ Jesus. If you cannot see the difference then I pray for you that your eyes also are open to the Spirit of reconciliation.

Be blessed,
iggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inquisitor,</p>
<p>I am tired of trying to explain.</p>
<p>I let these guys come to my personal blog and call me all sorts of names. I go to their blog to discuss and am called crazy for pointing out that what they have stated about a person is so far off it is laughable if not slander.</p>
<p>I am treated with disrespect as I feel you are marginally doing right now by not even trying to understand but only push your own view which seems to miss the difference between critiquing for betterment and criticizing just to &#8220;b*tch&#8221; with no room for the other to change.</p>
<p>I pointed out that Dan Kimball proved he was orthodox yet, Ken refused to give grace&#8230; I pointed out that I am told I am not saved, yet not anyone here that is for this blog would or has ever stated Ken of Ingrid is not.</p>
<p>I ahve held up what the Bible states&#8230; and some have criticised me for stating that Ken and Ingrid are not saved&#8230; yet I only stated they seem to &#8220;fit&#8221; what Paul stated here and gave the verse&#8230; the verse thus condemned by their own words and standard&#8230; I did not.</p>
<p>It seems that you cannot see that to critique in hope of betterment and out of love is not the same as to slander and attack and try to destroy the other out &#8220;selfish ambition&#8221; is nto the same.</p>
<p>I had called for a day of prayer and fasting out of love for Ken and Ken mocked me&#8230; I still pray daily for Ken and Ingrid and call others to do so. I call for reconciliation&#8230;</p>
<p>And that is the huge difference you miss.</p>
<p>The ODM&#8217;s minister out of the ministry of death and condemnation of the law as they mix law and grace and I for one minister out of the ministry of reconciliation that has been given to us from Christ Jesus. If you cannot see the difference then I pray for you that your eyes also are open to the Spirit of reconciliation.</p>
<p>Be blessed,<br />
iggy</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I think the &quot;brood of vipers&quot; comment could be used a lot on the web. To a lot of people. Even people that total less than a brood.

There has been a lot of love forgotten by a lot of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I think the &#8220;brood of vipers&#8221; comment could be used a lot on the web. To a lot of people. Even people that total less than a brood.</p>
<p>There has been a lot of love forgotten by a lot of people.</p>
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		<title>By: sherry</title>
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		<dc:creator>sherry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 12:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blindness, pride, arrogance, selfishness...

and all in the name of Jesus.

I could just picture Jesus saying to all of us, &quot;You brood of vipers!&quot;

And no I am not a &quot;watchdoggie&quot;, nor am I a watchdoggie watching the watchdoggies - 

I am merely a servant of Christ witnessing a fleshly battle - and saddened by what we become 
when we allow our motives, thoughts, feelings, and our own wisdom,  tempt to outshine our Lord.

We have forgotten our First Love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blindness, pride, arrogance, selfishness&#8230;</p>
<p>and all in the name of Jesus.</p>
<p>I could just picture Jesus saying to all of us, &#8220;You brood of vipers!&#8221;</p>
<p>And no I am not a &#8220;watchdoggie&#8221;, nor am I a watchdoggie watching the watchdoggies &#8211; </p>
<p>I am merely a servant of Christ witnessing a fleshly battle &#8211; and saddened by what we become<br />
when we allow our motives, thoughts, feelings, and our own wisdom,  tempt to outshine our Lord.</p>
<p>We have forgotten our First Love.</p>
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