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	<title>Comments on: Lessons from the language incidents *updated*</title>
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		<title>By: nc</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28638</link>
		<dc:creator>nc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep.
Inquisitor, good questions...for EVERYONE.

I think looking at God&#039;s love is key.

But this site is about &quot;injustice&quot; acted in the Name of God.

It does seem a little disengenuous to make an issue here--A place that would have no need to exist if people like yourself turned their questions on the likes of CRN, et. al.

Please don&#039;t attribute motives to this forum that can not be born out.

Proof in the pudding?

Try that over there with Ken, Ingrid and the such.

Do you think it is ok for people to be able to straight out lie about people in the name of God with impunity?

This site exists because of it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.<br />
Inquisitor, good questions&#8230;for EVERYONE.</p>
<p>I think looking at God&#8217;s love is key.</p>
<p>But this site is about &#8220;injustice&#8221; acted in the Name of God.</p>
<p>It does seem a little disengenuous to make an issue here&#8211;A place that would have no need to exist if people like yourself turned their questions on the likes of CRN, et. al.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t attribute motives to this forum that can not be born out.</p>
<p>Proof in the pudding?</p>
<p>Try that over there with Ken, Ingrid and the such.</p>
<p>Do you think it is ok for people to be able to straight out lie about people in the name of God with impunity?</p>
<p>This site exists because of it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28637</link>
		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>inquisitor,
I&#039;ve actually struggled with this myself in the past ... what to do when people openly and publicly propagate either untrue, unloving, or unkind articles and or sentiments about Christians.

Truth is, I thought it was a good idea to just remain quiet and hope they go away, pray for them, etc.  But there&#039;s a time to pray, and a time to take action. This I have realized, and this site has helped me do so.

Fact is, with this issue, keep in mind that Mike Ratliff posted the first article that criticized the song in question.  In doing so, he and his commenters made some pretty hefty accusations.  As a result, I, as well as many others I&#039;m sure, felt it necessary to rebut those accusations.  They were untrue, and not founded in either scripture or sound logic.

The topic is controversial, so it gets lots of opinions.  When a person has an opinion about a controversial topic, they usually voice it, as is the custom around this blog (and the purpose).  Plus, writing a comment on a story you agree with can be a bit redundant.

Make sense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inquisitor,<br />
I&#8217;ve actually struggled with this myself in the past &#8230; what to do when people openly and publicly propagate either untrue, unloving, or unkind articles and or sentiments about Christians.</p>
<p>Truth is, I thought it was a good idea to just remain quiet and hope they go away, pray for them, etc.  But there&#8217;s a time to pray, and a time to take action. This I have realized, and this site has helped me do so.</p>
<p>Fact is, with this issue, keep in mind that Mike Ratliff posted the first article that criticized the song in question.  In doing so, he and his commenters made some pretty hefty accusations.  As a result, I, as well as many others I&#8217;m sure, felt it necessary to rebut those accusations.  They were untrue, and not founded in either scripture or sound logic.</p>
<p>The topic is controversial, so it gets lots of opinions.  When a person has an opinion about a controversial topic, they usually voice it, as is the custom around this blog (and the purpose).  Plus, writing a comment on a story you agree with can be a bit redundant.</p>
<p>Make sense?</p>
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		<title>By: inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28632</link>
		<dc:creator>inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nate,  I&#039;m not talking to CRN right now I&#039;m talking to you.  
Tim,  that&#039;s great that Iggy spent a day praying for Ken.  I guess that&#039;s all he&#039;s worth huh?  Maybe we could pray for him 2 days?

I remember a little bunny that said, &quot;if you can&#039;t say anything nice, don&#039;t say anything at all&quot;  

It&#039;s not okay to bash anyone simply because you prayed for him for a day. In fact, if you prayed for him 1,000 days, you don&#039;t ever earn the right to bash him.

Secondly,  why does he get more attention than God?  

Why do you spend so much time deconstructing Ken and others while the post about God&#039;s love goes unnoticed?  Why do you like to say negative things about Ken more so than you like to say good things about God?  
God only gets 2 comments, 1 of them mine.  The other one consisting of one word.  &quot;wow&quot;  

The proof is in the pudding, or in this case the lack thereof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nate,  I&#8217;m not talking to CRN right now I&#8217;m talking to you.<br />
Tim,  that&#8217;s great that Iggy spent a day praying for Ken.  I guess that&#8217;s all he&#8217;s worth huh?  Maybe we could pray for him 2 days?</p>
<p>I remember a little bunny that said, &#8220;if you can&#8217;t say anything nice, don&#8217;t say anything at all&#8221;  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not okay to bash anyone simply because you prayed for him for a day. In fact, if you prayed for him 1,000 days, you don&#8217;t ever earn the right to bash him.</p>
<p>Secondly,  why does he get more attention than God?  </p>
<p>Why do you spend so much time deconstructing Ken and others while the post about God&#8217;s love goes unnoticed?  Why do you like to say negative things about Ken more so than you like to say good things about God?<br />
God only gets 2 comments, 1 of them mine.  The other one consisting of one word.  &#8220;wow&#8221;  </p>
<p>The proof is in the pudding, or in this case the lack thereof.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28631</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,

I think I would add a fourth lesson:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Never Admit You&#039;re Wrong.&lt;/strong&gt;

While it&#039;s OK, and faux-humble to admit to fallacy in the abstract, never admit you&#039;re wrong or publish anything to that affect.  Either ignore your error, or arrogantly run with it and compound it.  If, however, your error is too obvious, it is better to pull an article and pretend it never existed than to leave it out there as a target for criticism that even your staunchest supporters might recognize...&lt;/em&gt;

Just an idea for additions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>I think I would add a fourth lesson:</p>
<p><em><strong>Never Admit You&#8217;re Wrong.</strong></p>
<p>While it&#8217;s OK, and faux-humble to admit to fallacy in the abstract, never admit you&#8217;re wrong or publish anything to that affect.  Either ignore your error, or arrogantly run with it and compound it.  If, however, your error is too obvious, it is better to pull an article and pretend it never existed than to leave it out there as a target for criticism that even your staunchest supporters might recognize&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Just an idea for additions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28629</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;A polite admonition to be careful about running with the big dogs there Tim, you could get yourself hurt.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe he means that Satan&#039;s upset with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>A polite admonition to be careful about running with the big dogs there Tim, you could get yourself hurt.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe he means that Satan&#8217;s upset with you?</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28625</link>
		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>inquisitor,
Funny, I don&#039;t hear you saying that to CRN?  Why do they get a forum to criticize, but are immune to it themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inquisitor,<br />
Funny, I don&#8217;t hear you saying that to CRN?  Why do they get a forum to criticize, but are immune to it themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28622</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe instead of wasting time talking bad about him we could pray for him. But then, how would we get our kicks? Right guys???&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Iggy managed an entire day devoted to praying for Silva.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Maybe instead of wasting time talking bad about him we could pray for him. But then, how would we get our kicks? Right guys???</p></blockquote>
<p>Iggy managed an entire day devoted to praying for Silva.</p>
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		<title>By: inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28621</link>
		<dc:creator>inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that&#039;s why the post about God&#039;s love only received 2 comments and all the watchdog posts get all the attention.  Seriously go look at the post about God&#039;s love that would have given all of us a great opportunity to give God the glory that He&#039;s due.  See how much attention was given to God.  Why does Silva get more of our attention than God???  Strange huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that&#8217;s why the post about God&#8217;s love only received 2 comments and all the watchdog posts get all the attention.  Seriously go look at the post about God&#8217;s love that would have given all of us a great opportunity to give God the glory that He&#8217;s due.  See how much attention was given to God.  Why does Silva get more of our attention than God???  Strange huh?</p>
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		<title>By: inquisitor</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28619</link>
		<dc:creator>inquisitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe instead of wasting time talking bad about him we could pray for him.  But then, how would we get our kicks? Right guys???

Maybe we could be like Christ and not give our attention and time to the &quot;haters&quot; and simply do the work of the Father.

But again,  that&#039;s not as fun as ganging up on some guy that we don&#039;t like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe instead of wasting time talking bad about him we could pray for him.  But then, how would we get our kicks? Right guys???</p>
<p>Maybe we could be like Christ and not give our attention and time to the &#8220;haters&#8221; and simply do the work of the Father.</p>
<p>But again,  that&#8217;s not as fun as ganging up on some guy that we don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: nc</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/19/lessons-from-the-language-incidents/comment-page-1/#comment-28617</link>
		<dc:creator>nc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever.
The man has no standing to assert any kind of &quot;privilege&quot; with Tim.

Pastor Silva is the poster boy for a needed reassessment of &quot;free church&quot; ordination procedures.

I just wish he would worry about his own flock. Not some fake internet &quot;flock&quot;. 

If anyone under the age of 40, was affiliated with emergent and launched an online faith community, he would eat them alive for being a false church.

but...if you have ministry &quot;your master&quot; gave you, then you&#039;ll just have to bow to any claim &quot;in the Lord&quot;, O Beloved Children.

But God Bless him this Thanksgiving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever.<br />
The man has no standing to assert any kind of &#8220;privilege&#8221; with Tim.</p>
<p>Pastor Silva is the poster boy for a needed reassessment of &#8220;free church&#8221; ordination procedures.</p>
<p>I just wish he would worry about his own flock. Not some fake internet &#8220;flock&#8221;. </p>
<p>If anyone under the age of 40, was affiliated with emergent and launched an online faith community, he would eat them alive for being a false church.</p>
<p>but&#8230;if you have ministry &#8220;your master&#8221; gave you, then you&#8217;ll just have to bow to any claim &#8220;in the Lord&#8221;, O Beloved Children.</p>
<p>But God Bless him this Thanksgiving!</p>
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