To provide some accurate perspective on his posts is one thing, to dwell on his past deeds is counter productive. The sad part is that there are genuine issues within the evangelical church that could use some calm, scholarly, and accurate discourse without the hyperbolic revelry which draws attention to the writer and not the issue.

Do we really desire to live as Christ? Then most of those issues do not have Ken as an ingredient.

My conversation with him does not need to aired publically.

If he is unrepentant it does… or you condone his sin and have not finished the steps in Matthew 18. You are then letting him not come to “public shame” and still leave him in his sin.

iggy

I have forgiven them, and this is about you coming here and judging me as you just did… again… instead of facing your own “friends” sin… and helping them to stop.

Instead of judging us and telling me to forgive, which I have… and do not hold any malice toward Ken… nor Ingrid… but fear that they miss the grace that God has given to them. I see them in bondage, and I see that you do not care that they are in it.

DT, this is the next step of the several witnesses confronting these people, and I agree with Tim R… that we are following the biblical teachings… but it seems that as we do it you judge us for doing it.

I also want you to note that you did not answer one question I had for you as you turned it all around and made it about me… I see that you CANNOT face your own sin in this matter and seem to want to project it on others.

This seems to run rampant…

I do forgive them and i also forgive you in the Name of Jesus as He has taught us to do.

So you are forgiven… now go and sin no more and tell your friend so stop their sins also.

iggy

Also, I’m just curious why you think Matthew 18 applies here, and yet you haven’t come to me privately? Isn’t that the first step? My email is all over this site and my own site.

‘And why do you DT, hold these men up as not having a double standard yet we have one here when we may all disagree at times but give each other grace and not one here has call the other “not saved”…’

In all seriousness if someone said that I “need to be save” or that I was “not saved” I would laugh in their face or laugh at the screen. It appears to really bother you that someone said this to you because you have brought this up on several occassions. Don’t let unforgiveness wear you down with this.

DT

I have talked about this with Ken. So, once again Tim, you speak about something you have no idea about.

“meanwhile you direct no such questions to watchdoggies”

My conversation with him does not need to aired publically.

DT

They all just mocked me and called me names and one stated i was not saved…

So… why the double standard that these men care so little to converse with whom they disagree and are quick to judge and condemn another brother in Christ….

And why do you DT, hold these men up as not having a double standard yet we have one here when we may all disagree at times but give each other grace and not one here has call the other “not saved”…

So, how do you justify that double standard DT, please let me know when many of us went through the Matthew 18 scenario with many of the writers at CRN but only received an assault on one character and ended up bearing more slander and lies.

Tell me how you justify telling us that we have not done as scripture teaches… and yet to have one at CRN do any such thing for any of us.

Tell me how you justify all that… use as much scripture as you want… just tell me how lies and slander promote truth… and protect it… show me one scripture where Jesus taught that… and I will humbly give all of the ODM’s personally for my apology for standing up to their double standard you seem to see as a form of Godliness…

iggy

Why the double standard?

I have never had a comment blocked before so don’t tell me “You’ve commented often enough here to know that the spam filter occasionally has false positives.”

My mistake. I didn’t realize you were actively not reading the complaints Joe made that he was being spam-filtered on the earlier thread you were active on.

Also as far as “true colors” go, you’ve been met with far more respect here when you’ve been directly confronting us, than the watchdoggies have to people who aren’t confronting them. Again I ask you, why the double standard? You come on here to ask us if we’ve been following Matthew 18, meanwhile you direct no such questions to watchdoggies. Now you claim we’re being nasty and mean, yet you fail to make the same statements concerning those you agree with.

I’ll ask one more time. Why the double standards?