Comments on: The soul of wit. http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/ Engaging the depths of God and life in the Kingdom Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:50:39 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: clearly http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31817 clearly Sun, 02 Dec 2007 04:27:09 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31817 Joe, I like competition. Joe,

I like competition.

]]> By: nc http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31815 nc Sun, 02 Dec 2007 04:21:30 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31815 RE: GCC Having lived in proximity to that church I can say that it's rep is mixed. Even with "conservatives". The congregation has its own share of problems with being perceived as arrogant, quick on the trigger judgemental, etc. It's all who you talk to... And that's with people who've actually heard of it. RE: GCC

Having lived in proximity to that church I can say that it’s rep is mixed. Even with “conservatives”. The congregation has its own share of problems with being perceived as arrogant, quick on the trigger judgemental, etc.

It’s all who you talk to…

And that’s with people who’ve actually heard of it.

]]> By: Musings from Two-Sheds Gomer » Blog Archive » you guys are fighting over WHAT? http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31810 Musings from Two-Sheds Gomer » Blog Archive » you guys are fighting over WHAT? Sun, 02 Dec 2007 03:59:12 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31810 [...] HT to CRN.Info Tags: TeamPyro, death, sin, Christ, Christian, Emergent, Fred Phelps, Paul Proctor, Ingrid Schlueter   [link] [...] [...] HT to CRN.Info Tags: TeamPyro, death, sin, Christ, Christian, Emergent, Fred Phelps, Paul Proctor, Ingrid Schlueter   [link] [...]

]]> By: Chris L http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31782 Chris L Sun, 02 Dec 2007 02:02:25 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31782 Joe - it might end up contradicting Johnnie Mac's opinion, as well. From God's mouth to his lips... Joe – it might end up contradicting Johnnie Mac’s opinion, as well.

From God’s mouth to his lips…

]]> By: Joe Martino http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31777 Joe Martino Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:51:07 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31777 Dave, I truly have thought about doing the push up thing. Do you want to have a friendly competition to see who can do the most consecutive days? Now, to your argument. I agree your first argument is very plausible given Scripture. What I'm saying is that if you truly believe that then you have to give Mars Hill the same treatment. Now, with your second "out" you're entitled to it, however it comes down to your opinion. I could introduce you to friends who's lives have been transformed here but it doesn't sound as it would matter. Dave,
I truly have thought about doing the push up thing. Do you want to have a friendly competition to see who can do the most consecutive days?
Now, to your argument. I agree your first argument is very plausible given Scripture. What I’m saying is that if you truly believe that then you have to give Mars Hill the same treatment. Now, with your second “out” you’re entitled to it, however it comes down to your opinion. I could introduce you to friends who’s lives have been transformed here but it doesn’t sound as it would matter.

]]> By: clearly http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31771 clearly Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:46:57 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31771 Joe, I would be glad to admit that by argument doesn't hold water, if someone would offer a counter-interpretation of 2 Corinthians 3:1-6. This is the second time I have asked. I feel I got it straight from the text, the authority. My other "out" is that I while I believe Mars Hill has changed lives, I do not believe it has produced the change of 2 Corinthians 3:18. I believe that insomuch as the Bible is presented accurately (and with some of the sermons I have heard that woudl be the case, although others have left me grieved) at Mars Hill, people will grow. You should try the push-up thing. I have gotten a bit behind this week, but I really need to add a disclaimer about other people because friends will stop me and ask me if I have done them:) Joe, I would be glad to admit that by argument doesn’t hold water, if someone would offer a counter-interpretation of 2 Corinthians 3:1-6. This is the second time I have asked. I feel I got it straight from the text, the authority. My other “out” is that I while I believe Mars Hill has changed lives, I do not believe it has produced the change of 2 Corinthians 3:18. I believe that insomuch as the Bible is presented accurately (and with some of the sermons I have heard that woudl be the case, although others have left me grieved) at Mars Hill, people will grow.

You should try the push-up thing. I have gotten a bit behind this week, but I really need to add a disclaimer about other people because friends will stop me and ask me if I have done them:)

]]> By: Julie http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31764 Julie Sun, 02 Dec 2007 01:39:26 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31764 "toadies" I haven't seen that word in a while. “toadies”

I haven’t seen that word in a while.

]]> By: Tim Reed http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31755 Tim Reed Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:47:59 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31755 Uh oh, someone's full of.. er, uh, wit. Uh oh, someone’s full of.. er, uh, wit.

]]> By: Reverend Joe Martino http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31754 Reverend Joe Martino Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:46:59 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31754 Uh-oh, Dave made a bad argument and got caught! Get off your self imposed self righteous high horse and admit that either: a. Your argument doesn't hold water or b. Mars Hill Grand Rapids is being used of God. I can parade person after person to you who has had their life transformed by the ministry of Rob and our church. But I don't have to do that. On your own blog is/was a comment from a friend of yours where he talked about how his life had been changed by Rob's ministry and you discredited his statements. Now, do your 25 push-ups (I know you just thought about them) and look honestly at your argument. Uh-oh, Dave made a bad argument and got caught! Get off your self imposed self righteous high horse and admit that either:
a. Your argument doesn’t hold water or
b. Mars Hill Grand Rapids is being used of God.
I can parade person after person to you who has had their life transformed by the ministry of Rob and our church. But I don’t have to do that. On your own blog is/was a comment from a friend of yours where he talked about how his life had been changed by Rob’s ministry and you discredited his statements.
Now, do your 25 push-ups (I know you just thought about them) and look honestly at your argument.

]]> By: David C http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/comment-page-1/#comment-31749 David C Sun, 02 Dec 2007 00:17:28 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2007/11/30/the-soul-of-wit/#comment-31749 clearly: "That being said, I don’t think I have to remind you of the amazing ministry of Grace Community Church " That also is in the eye of the beholder. It depends on who you talk to. You are not even trying to hide your biases, and present them as fact. That may play resonate within the walls of GCC where everybody pretty much shares your mindset and your assumptions. Not outside the walls. It's a big world out there. I was in and around GCC for 8 years through college and after. Bought the notion that GCC was a world renowned church and an object of envy around the world. Then left their because of a job for Orange County which is just an hour drive. Very few people had heard of GCC, much less John MacArthur. You have your opinions and biases, and so do I. It makes you look foolish to present them as fact. The "amazing ministry" of GCC is reflective of how you feel about it. Don't tell us how we should feel about it. clearly:

“That being said, I don’t think I have to remind you of the amazing ministry of Grace Community Church ”

That also is in the eye of the beholder. It depends on who you talk to.

You are not even trying to hide your biases, and present them as fact. That may play resonate within the walls of GCC where everybody pretty much shares your mindset and your assumptions.

Not outside the walls. It’s a big world out there.

I was in and around GCC for 8 years through college and after. Bought the notion that GCC was a world renowned church and an object of envy around the world.

Then left their because of a job for Orange County which is just an hour drive. Very few people had heard of GCC, much less John MacArthur.

You have your opinions and biases, and so do I. It makes you look foolish to present them as fact. The “amazing ministry” of GCC is reflective of how you feel about it. Don’t tell us how we should feel about it.

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