iggy =)

1) I still think the “O Holy Night” audio is hilarious. I don’t think the singer was serious. I could care less if he was or wasn’t a Christian (re: the song and his intent). The first time I heard the song–a couple of years ago–I had no doubt it was comedy, was always intended to be comedy and nothing else. It never crossed my mind that it might be [ fill in adjective ].

2) The video is disturbing. Chris L referred to it as “uncomfortable.” I have to agree. Although we don’t KNOW the circumstances, pretty much anyone with a pulse could probably put it together (or at least get pretty close). I figure:
a) They guy is not a professional singer (obvious)
b) He has probably had a rough life and now, for whatever reason/circumstance finds himself in a congregation/church setting where he has found hope and encouragement.
c) He either asked or was asked to speak about his new found hope and in the course of that testimony, felt moved to express himself via song.
d) “Amazing Grace” best describes his (and probably most of our) journey[s]. He may not know the words, but he sorta knows the title and appears to have an understanding of this “Amazing Grace.”
e) There’s more to the “Amens” at the end than we’ll ever know. The congregants have seen this guy’s journey first-hand. They know he can’t sing, but they also know he most likely has experienced God’s “Amazing Grace.”

3) It is AMAZING to me how a post about a specific topic can start off so good, and take some of the most bizarre turns in the conversation, i.e . Arminian, AG, Purpose-Driven.

This is not “goading” in the sense that he is not being civil here… I appreciate that… I am poking a little as I find it hilarious that he can condemn others yet he himself is just another log on the fire of Ken Silva’s hell bound accusees and cannot even see that… I hope to open his eyes to see that for all his condemnation of me, he too is condemned by the standard to the ODM’s…

I hope he will see this and confess his sin before God and man and thus thwart any more possible shame as he stands before Jesus.

I believe he is sincere… but not kind…

I am trying to be kind… and sincere… and hopefully break through his pride to bring reconciliation.

=)

iggy

When you continually throw babies out with the bathwater (a hallmark of ODMs), one of those times, the baby will be yours.

Let’s not goad unnecessarily…
He didn’t come here on blast this time.

Not only must it be beautiful, but it also must be caucasian (preferably of Western European origin) or else someone might shake their fanny.

For those unfamiliar with what I’m referring to — this is in NO WAY my opinion — I’m just paraphrasing Ingrid.

John MacArthur thinks you are a heretic also… remember his book Charismatic Chaos?

He states that all “charismatics” are not in line with scripture and are apostate… so now you are judged and condmened also with me by Johnny Mac! So welcome to the club!

LOL!

iggy

Are not going to a AG church.. read their bylaws… they are Arminian based as can be! They claim their start on Azuza street revival… with tongues…

I left the AG when I began to learn about grace and realized I could not with good conscience serve that denomination if I believed in eternal security. They would not ordain me for saying I believed someone could not lose their salvation…

SO, you go to a Arminian based church, so you support “free will” which according to Ken Silva, makes you a man loving semi pelagian… with much more facts to back that up that when he called me one! LOL!

Now, we can argue over this, but just go read you bylaws then get back to me. = )

So again, do not lie, if you go to that kind of church and work for them then you support their doctrine… right? If not you are lying to them and to yourself.

iggy

Oh heck this is so much fun… here are some of the 16 fundamental beliefs…

#4 WE BELIEVE…though originally good, Man Willingly Fell to Sin–ushering evil and death, both physical and spiritual, into the world.

#8 WE BELIEVE… The Initial Physical Evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit is ‘Speaking in Tongues,’ as experienced on the Day of Pentecost and referenced throughout Acts and the Epistles.

On the “security of the believer”…

So, if one can lose salvation, they must have earned themselves as one cannot receive it as a free gift then lose the gift…

Romans11: 29. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

So you either follow the bylaws or the bible…

(Sorry to you that also go to the AG, I am not against the AG I have many great friends who serve in it and we get along great and love one another… this is to show the difference between Ken and Chris P and that Ken if he is honest must toss Chris P into the same pile as Rob Bell!)

iggy