Its like many on this site think the church is only in America, and is only made up of metro-sexual sandal wearing starbucks drinking intelectuals who like their music, worship, etc. to be postmodern and relevant to them. Its as though there shouldn’t be a safe place for those little old ladies who love the Lord in their modernist way…

Are you saying that modernism is better?

Also, I think you are making some broad characterizations of people… not all are as you are describing… in fact I am not sure even who you are talking about as I am one of the people you are supposedly describing!

iggy

Are you calling us hippies or something? LOL

joe

I have been persecuted as I have gone to the local college campus, coffee shops, in the open air when presenting the Gospel. My reputation has been disparaged. It is really nothing, however, compared to what those precious souls are encountering all over the world.

Its like many on this site think the church is only in America, and is only made up of metro-sexual sandal wearing starbucks drinking intelectuals who like their music, worship, etc. to be postmodern and relevant to them. Its as though there shouldn’t be a safe place for those little old ladies who love the Lord in their modernist way…

It is so sad, because we all are of the same body; all who have repented and placed their trust in Christ are all of the same body no matter how they like their worship service..

McLean Bible Church had teens “partying all night” to bring in the New Year. I wonder what Christians in North Korea were doing. While “pastors” today are filling their time with booze, video games and chat rooms, the true Bride of Christ is purified around the world by suffering.

What’s her problem with having teenagers, who otherwise might get caught up in terrible sins of drunkeness and drug abuse, be at a safe and loving location all night on new years eve with other CHRISTIANS in order to bring in the new year in a wholesome God-honoring way?

I’m sorry, I forgot that parties among Christians are forbidden in the Bible? Perhaps ‘love-feasts’ or ‘and they broke bread in their homes daily’ might ring a bell?

Christians in North Korea were probably celebrating with other Christians, in whatever way God had provided for them to do in the circumstances that they were in!

The Christian teens or even non Christian teens who were kept out of trouble by going to that all nighter at MBC were doing what they could for the night in a country that has the freedoms and luxuries to do so!

Maybe they should have hid in their basements from the non-existent, oppressive, anti-christian government, and donned their prayer shawls instead? Notice Ingrid provides no solution, or adivce on what they should have done, but instead offers some nebulous comparison to what she thinks the Korean Christians MIGHT be doing on new years, if they even celebrate our julian new year like we do, that is.

Or maybe they should have gone out and gotten power-blasted on booze and killed 4 people in a drunk driving accident?

Yeah MBC is so evil and apostasized (is that even a word?) for providing a safe haven on new years, in a generation that can all to easily be caught up in sinful and DANGEROUS acts. And getting those kids in to a location with other Christians, and surely some pastoral leadership was there too, is that such a BAD thing?

I suppose I sinned for having my Christian friends over to play board games, swap stories, break bread and eat dinner, and have some wine together instead of hiding in a storm shelter praying the Romans don’t get me on new years. What??

Is there any evidence from the Bible or Church history that those Christians in areas where there was less persecution made sure they never did anything to take advantage of that freedom? On one hand, let’s not forget those who suffer for Christ around the world, with our prayers, and our rescources. On the other hand, let’s not spit on what God has given us and in self-righteousness tell everyone that taking advantage of certain circumstances is sinful and un-christian.

She commited a logical fallacy in this post of hers, I’ll leave it up to our own imaginations as to which one it was.

What would you have everyone do Ingrid? What would you have us do?

Seeing as what God has laid out as acceptable, in precedence of Scripture, doesn’t seem good enough for her.

Joe