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	<title>Comments on: What Can American Idol Teach Us About The Church?</title>
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		<title>By: Joe C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--Hijack-- Go Patriots.

Boo San Diego.

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8211;Hijack&#8211; Go Patriots.</p>
<p>Boo San Diego.</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Martino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Martino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I felt bad for that girl...and she played football! And to draw from the point behind the post she didn&#039;t come out lying to herself--which so many do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I felt bad for that girl&#8230;and she played football! And to draw from the point behind the post she didn&#8217;t come out lying to herself&#8211;which so many do.</p>
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		<title>By: pastorboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastorboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ignatious de iggy:
Romans 2:
It is because we judge one another from a hypocritical heart ( the heart is Desperately WICKED above all things...who can know it...) that we are condemned. Because we judge AND practice the same things ourselves (not doing research, being sarcastic and snarky, see this blog and some ODM&#039;s) we will see the judgement of God.

We DO take the riches of HIS tolerance, kindness, and patience lightly. We DO NOT know or allow the kindness of God to lead us to repentance. Because WE ARE stubborn WE ARE storing up God&#039;s wrath for ourselves on that last day.

Why can&#039;t we trust God to render to each person according to his deeds? Why do we need ODM&#039;s and counter ODM&#039;s? Don&#039;t we trust God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ignatious de iggy:<br />
Romans 2:<br />
It is because we judge one another from a hypocritical heart ( the heart is Desperately WICKED above all things&#8230;who can know it&#8230;) that we are condemned. Because we judge AND practice the same things ourselves (not doing research, being sarcastic and snarky, see this blog and some ODM&#8217;s) we will see the judgement of God.</p>
<p>We DO take the riches of HIS tolerance, kindness, and patience lightly. We DO NOT know or allow the kindness of God to lead us to repentance. Because WE ARE stubborn WE ARE storing up God&#8217;s wrath for ourselves on that last day.</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t we trust God to render to each person according to his deeds? Why do we need ODM&#8217;s and counter ODM&#8217;s? Don&#8217;t we trust God?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is somewhat unrelated, so I apologize in advance.

I&#039;ve only watched American Idol a few times. Of course the best episodes are the auditions in the beginning. I saw a few minutes of the new ones this week, and I think the judges are losing their edge. This girl came in, gave a sob story about her mom, and commenced to fail at singing. So rather than crush this girl&#039;s dreams, the judges gave her a group hug ans walked her out. I knew then that AI had jumped the shark. America will not stand for such mercy, especially from Simon Cowell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is somewhat unrelated, so I apologize in advance.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only watched American Idol a few times. Of course the best episodes are the auditions in the beginning. I saw a few minutes of the new ones this week, and I think the judges are losing their edge. This girl came in, gave a sob story about her mom, and commenced to fail at singing. So rather than crush this girl&#8217;s dreams, the judges gave her a group hug ans walked her out. I knew then that AI had jumped the shark. America will not stand for such mercy, especially from Simon Cowell.</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PB,

Wrath has its place, but to state God is angry... 

you need to re-read the Romans passage and get to chapter two where Paul speaks of &quot;kindness&quot;...

John 3:36 is as it states, yet we have the ministry of reconciliation that we share... not ministry of death and condemnation... as Hebrews 10 teaches 

&quot;If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.  &lt;strong&gt;How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace&lt;/strong&gt;?&quot; 

In that they commit the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit... the one unforgivable sin... that they deny Christ there is nothing left for them but wrath... but it is as a forgiven man one will face wrath... though they reject that forgiveness.

Colossians 3: 6 is about how those that believe once were... and that wrath will come becuase such evil is in the world...

I am not sure what you are getting at other than you are assuming wrongly I deny wrath... I do not deny wrath, but hold it in its proper perspective in light of Grace.

I will not preach wrath at the expense of Grace, yet without wrath there can be no Grace... without wrath, God cannot show kindness to those who are now vessels of Mercy.

The ODM&#039;s push wrath and negate the Cross and Resurrection that saves us as they claim the Blood of Jesus was not enough to please the Father... they negate that Jesus&#039; obedience was enough for us and that we must do works to please the Father in addition to Jesus&#039; finish works on the Cross.

They claim Jesus is not the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world, but that he is only the covering we have until wrath comes... Jesus did more than cover our sins... He totally satisfied all God righteous demands and took away the sins of the world... and I preach... Behold the Lamb.

iggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PB,</p>
<p>Wrath has its place, but to state God is angry&#8230; </p>
<p>you need to re-read the Romans passage and get to chapter two where Paul speaks of &#8220;kindness&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>John 3:36 is as it states, yet we have the ministry of reconciliation that we share&#8230; not ministry of death and condemnation&#8230; as Hebrews 10 teaches </p>
<p>&#8220;If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.  <strong>How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace</strong>?&#8221; </p>
<p>In that they commit the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit&#8230; the one unforgivable sin&#8230; that they deny Christ there is nothing left for them but wrath&#8230; but it is as a forgiven man one will face wrath&#8230; though they reject that forgiveness.</p>
<p>Colossians 3: 6 is about how those that believe once were&#8230; and that wrath will come becuase such evil is in the world&#8230;</p>
<p>I am not sure what you are getting at other than you are assuming wrongly I deny wrath&#8230; I do not deny wrath, but hold it in its proper perspective in light of Grace.</p>
<p>I will not preach wrath at the expense of Grace, yet without wrath there can be no Grace&#8230; without wrath, God cannot show kindness to those who are now vessels of Mercy.</p>
<p>The ODM&#8217;s push wrath and negate the Cross and Resurrection that saves us as they claim the Blood of Jesus was not enough to please the Father&#8230; they negate that Jesus&#8217; obedience was enough for us and that we must do works to please the Father in addition to Jesus&#8217; finish works on the Cross.</p>
<p>They claim Jesus is not the Lamb who takes away the sin of the world, but that he is only the covering we have until wrath comes&#8230; Jesus did more than cover our sins&#8230; He totally satisfied all God righteous demands and took away the sins of the world&#8230; and I preach&#8230; Behold the Lamb.</p>
<p>iggy</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Martino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Martino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough. I feel that you did a fair bit of commentary there on some of those verses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. I feel that you did a fair bit of commentary there on some of those verses.</p>
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		<title>By: pastorboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastorboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can hear Carvey doing that! LOL

Joe, I am just wrestling with both sides here. I understand why you are here, I understand the purpose of this blog, as well as the ODM&#039;s You referenced Romans 12, I read it, I was just trying to line up how these blogs line up with that scripture?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can hear Carvey doing that! LOL</p>
<p>Joe, I am just wrestling with both sides here. I understand why you are here, I understand the purpose of this blog, as well as the ODM&#8217;s You referenced Romans 12, I read it, I was just trying to line up how these blogs line up with that scripture?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Martino</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Martino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PB, This will probably be my last comment for a while as I have a ton of stuff to do. I have to say that to some extent, you seem to have an agenda in your comments. I seem to remember you stating numerous times about this blog shutting down. In the words of Dana Carvey imitating George Sr. &quot;Not gonna happen...&quot; You asked me what is love and I answered. I&#039;m glad you&#039;re here and commenting but I don&#039;t think you understand why this Blog is here. The answer has been answered ad nauseum numerous times so I&#039;m gonna leave it at that. 
Peace, Love and Happiness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PB, This will probably be my last comment for a while as I have a ton of stuff to do. I have to say that to some extent, you seem to have an agenda in your comments. I seem to remember you stating numerous times about this blog shutting down. In the words of Dana Carvey imitating George Sr. &#8220;Not gonna happen&#8230;&#8221; You asked me what is love and I answered. I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re here and commenting but I don&#8217;t think you understand why this Blog is here. The answer has been answered ad nauseum numerous times so I&#8217;m gonna leave it at that.<br />
Peace, Love and Happiness</p>
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		<title>By: pastorboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastorboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iggy, what do you do with Romans 1:18? John 3:36? Colossians 3:6? I could go on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iggy, what do you do with Romans 1:18? John 3:36? Colossians 3:6? I could go on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pastorboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastorboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this passage is true, this blog (and others) should cease to exist, unless it becomes for the purpose of blessing the ODM&#039;s:

Romans 12:14-21
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 
(unless they curse you, or a cause you are passionate about first)
15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16Live in harmony with one another. (unless they are fundamentalists, Calvinists, moderns, etc.)
Do not be proud, (unless you believe that you are right and others are wrong)
 but be willing to associate with people of low position.Do not be conceited.

 17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. (but feel free to criticize an ignorant article/person on an ODM site)
Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. (again, unless they are an ODM)

19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God&#039;s wrath, for it is written: &quot;It is mine to avenge; I will repay,&quot;says the Lord. (unless, of course, you believe that the Holy Spirit is impotent or dead)

20On the contrary: 
   &quot;If your enemy is hungry, feed him; 
      if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. 
   In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.&quot; 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. (of course, you can overcome perceived evil by writing biting, sarcastic responses if you are offended by an ODM)

(The parentheses are mine)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this passage is true, this blog (and others) should cease to exist, unless it becomes for the purpose of blessing the ODM&#8217;s:</p>
<p>Romans 12:14-21<br />
14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.<br />
(unless they curse you, or a cause you are passionate about first)<br />
15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16Live in harmony with one another. (unless they are fundamentalists, Calvinists, moderns, etc.)<br />
Do not be proud, (unless you believe that you are right and others are wrong)<br />
 but be willing to associate with people of low position.Do not be conceited.</p>
<p> 17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. (but feel free to criticize an ignorant article/person on an ODM site)<br />
Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. (again, unless they are an ODM)</p>
<p>19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God&#8217;s wrath, for it is written: &#8220;It is mine to avenge; I will repay,&#8221;says the Lord. (unless, of course, you believe that the Holy Spirit is impotent or dead)</p>
<p>20On the contrary:<br />
   &#8220;If your enemy is hungry, feed him;<br />
      if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.<br />
   In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.&#8221; 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good. (of course, you can overcome perceived evil by writing biting, sarcastic responses if you are offended by an ODM)</p>
<p>(The parentheses are mine)</p>
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