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	<title>Comments on: the sexuality obsession</title>
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		<title>By: Henry (Rick) Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-7/#comment-52262</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry (Rick) Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would also question someone&#039;s standing before God if they continued unmoved in a sin that the Scriptures prohibit. Many professing believers practice forms of sin with no seeming remorse that are not homosexuality, and they too might well examine themselves.

The second article that labels gays as SAD (sodomy attraction disorder) is provocative and unproductive as well as unredemptive. Some of these guys are obsessed with homosexuality and yet attend a church permeated with praylessness and pride. (just a guess based upon my subjective observation of MOST American churches, even ones that are &quot;for truth&quot;) Many meet in buildings whose mortgage payment interest goes to help gay causes.

The whole thing is just sad (and I mean sad as depressing!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also question someone&#8217;s standing before God if they continued unmoved in a sin that the Scriptures prohibit. Many professing believers practice forms of sin with no seeming remorse that are not homosexuality, and they too might well examine themselves.</p>
<p>The second article that labels gays as SAD (sodomy attraction disorder) is provocative and unproductive as well as unredemptive. Some of these guys are obsessed with homosexuality and yet attend a church permeated with praylessness and pride. (just a guess based upon my subjective observation of MOST American churches, even ones that are &#8220;for truth&#8221;) Many meet in buildings whose mortgage payment interest goes to help gay causes.</p>
<p>The whole thing is just sad (and I mean sad as depressing!)</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Hurst</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-7/#comment-52261</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya know...I was content to let this conversation die.

But Peter&#039;s at it again, and it&#039;s worse than usual.

In the first link, Peter proclaims that gay people can&#039;t have Christ.

In the second link, some guest &quot;writer&quot; classifies gay people as having a disease called &quot;SADism,&quot; and conflates gay people with SERIAL KILLERS.

i would propose that for every person you all show the love of Christ to, Peter slams the door on five.  it would be different if you all and he weren&#039;t supposedly on the same team.

(for the record, i don&#039;t believe that you are.)

http://americansfortruth.com/news/jim-wallis-calls-homosexual-activist-mel-white-a-gay-christian.html

http://americansfortruth.com/news/genetic-disorders-like-sad-deserve-treatment-not-acceptance.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya know&#8230;I was content to let this conversation die.</p>
<p>But Peter&#8217;s at it again, and it&#8217;s worse than usual.</p>
<p>In the first link, Peter proclaims that gay people can&#8217;t have Christ.</p>
<p>In the second link, some guest &#8220;writer&#8221; classifies gay people as having a disease called &#8220;SADism,&#8221; and conflates gay people with SERIAL KILLERS.</p>
<p>i would propose that for every person you all show the love of Christ to, Peter slams the door on five.  it would be different if you all and he weren&#8217;t supposedly on the same team.</p>
<p>(for the record, i don&#8217;t believe that you are.)</p>
<p><a href="http://americansfortruth.com/news/jim-wallis-calls-homosexual-activist-mel-white-a-gay-christian.html" rel="nofollow">http://americansfortruth.com/news/jim-wallis-calls-homosexual-activist-mel-white-a-gay-christian.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://americansfortruth.com/news/genetic-disorders-like-sad-deserve-treatment-not-acceptance.html" rel="nofollow">http://americansfortruth.com/news/genetic-disorders-like-sad-deserve-treatment-not-acceptance.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-7/#comment-51949</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 05:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen writes:  
&quot;Peter you certainly donâ€™t seem like you have found peace! Reading all of these posts, it seems that you really drive people away from you, even Christians. If your purpose is to get people saved, this is a terrible way to go about it. Why would anyone want to listen to you? You seem to purposely alienate yourself from others and I guess I cannot understand this behavior. Why are you targeting gay people? Why wonâ€™t you allow others to understand what is driving this behavior? Can you allow others to see into your mind so we can â€œgetâ€ you.&quot;

&quot;Before you urge Joe to find your same â€œpeaceâ€, you should look how you come across to people. You seem like the â€œpeace-lessâ€ one.&quot;

That is an interesting observation.  Peter&#039;s rants do seem to be a case of &quot;Me thinks he doth protest too much.&quot;  The quote is from Shakespeare&#039;s &#039;Hamlet&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen writes:<br />
&#8220;Peter you certainly donâ€™t seem like you have found peace! Reading all of these posts, it seems that you really drive people away from you, even Christians. If your purpose is to get people saved, this is a terrible way to go about it. Why would anyone want to listen to you? You seem to purposely alienate yourself from others and I guess I cannot understand this behavior. Why are you targeting gay people? Why wonâ€™t you allow others to understand what is driving this behavior? Can you allow others to see into your mind so we can â€œgetâ€ you.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Before you urge Joe to find your same â€œpeaceâ€, you should look how you come across to people. You seem like the â€œpeace-lessâ€ one.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is an interesting observation.  Peter&#8217;s rants do seem to be a case of &#8220;Me thinks he doth protest too much.&#8221;  The quote is from Shakespeare&#8217;s &#8216;Hamlet&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Hurst</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-7/#comment-51935</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very true...the success of rates of &quot;reparative therapies&quot; are largely made up, and their history is chock-full of former &quot;success stories.&quot;  sure, there are a couple of people with big testimonial websites and &quot;ministries&quot; devoted to &quot;you can change, you can change, you can change!&quot; but to a &#039;t&#039; they come off as brainwashed.

what&#039;s his name...Richard Cohen?  i think so.  his appearance on The Daily Show tells the entire story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very true&#8230;the success of rates of &#8220;reparative therapies&#8221; are largely made up, and their history is chock-full of former &#8220;success stories.&#8221;  sure, there are a couple of people with big testimonial websites and &#8220;ministries&#8221; devoted to &#8220;you can change, you can change, you can change!&#8221; but to a &#8216;t&#8217; they come off as brainwashed.</p>
<p>what&#8217;s his name&#8230;Richard Cohen?  i think so.  his appearance on The Daily Show tells the entire story.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-6/#comment-51933</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of mental health professionals consider NARTH to be an extreme splinter group.  Why?  The APA (American Psychological Association) has about 400,000 members.  The APA is the professional body for mental health professionals.

However, NARTH has less than 1000 members.  What that means is less than 1/4 of one percent of mental health professionals belong to NARTH.  NARTH has not been able to convince the vast majority of mental health professionals that &#039;reparative therapy&#039; works.  In fact, the APA considers &#039;reparative therapy&#039; to be of questionable value, and possibly dangerous to the mental health of the subjects.

An example,of &#039;reparative therapy&#039; going horribly wrong, is the incident of the shooter at the New Life Church in Colorado.  The individual was involved in &#039;reparative therapy&#039;, but it failed (like it does in the vast majority of cases).  The practitioners convinced the individual he was evil and going to Hell, because he was bisexual.  So, he went berserk, killing innocent people.

Of course, the killing was wrong.  However, the practitioners, of &#039;reparative therapy&#039;, were also at fault.  Why?  They put the shooter in the position of having no hope, feeling all was lost, and in a rage born of total despair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of mental health professionals consider NARTH to be an extreme splinter group.  Why?  The APA (American Psychological Association) has about 400,000 members.  The APA is the professional body for mental health professionals.</p>
<p>However, NARTH has less than 1000 members.  What that means is less than 1/4 of one percent of mental health professionals belong to NARTH.  NARTH has not been able to convince the vast majority of mental health professionals that &#8216;reparative therapy&#8217; works.  In fact, the APA considers &#8216;reparative therapy&#8217; to be of questionable value, and possibly dangerous to the mental health of the subjects.</p>
<p>An example,of &#8216;reparative therapy&#8217; going horribly wrong, is the incident of the shooter at the New Life Church in Colorado.  The individual was involved in &#8216;reparative therapy&#8217;, but it failed (like it does in the vast majority of cases).  The practitioners convinced the individual he was evil and going to Hell, because he was bisexual.  So, he went berserk, killing innocent people.</p>
<p>Of course, the killing was wrong.  However, the practitioners, of &#8216;reparative therapy&#8217;, were also at fault.  Why?  They put the shooter in the position of having no hope, feeling all was lost, and in a rage born of total despair.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Hurst</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-6/#comment-51815</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>watch out, Karen, or you&#039;ll be accused of hating Christians.

and yeah, it doesn&#039;t seem like &quot;peace&quot; to devote one&#039;s life and livelihood to marginalizing a minority in the name of one&#039;s ideals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watch out, Karen, or you&#8217;ll be accused of hating Christians.</p>
<p>and yeah, it doesn&#8217;t seem like &#8220;peace&#8221; to devote one&#8217;s life and livelihood to marginalizing a minority in the name of one&#8217;s ideals.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry (Rick) Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-6/#comment-51778</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry (Rick) Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingrid calls the beginning of &quot;Christian&quot; America as &quot;Sacred Foundations&quot; in her piece on some national pastor&#039;s conference. Sacred foundations which never mention the Lord Jesus who I thought was the Chief Cornerstone.

Man, I sure wasn&#039;t paying attention in American history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingrid calls the beginning of &#8220;Christian&#8221; America as &#8220;Sacred Foundations&#8221; in her piece on some national pastor&#8217;s conference. Sacred foundations which never mention the Lord Jesus who I thought was the Chief Cornerstone.</p>
<p>Man, I sure wasn&#8217;t paying attention in American history.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-6/#comment-51777</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Labarbera writes to Joe....

&quot;Joe, thatâ€™s just it: I donâ€™t want a Christ-less peace. I hope you find Christ, because that is true peace, eternal peace. Youâ€™re rebelling against God; itâ€™s a false peace you promote.&quot;

Peter you certainly don&#039;t seem like you have found peace!   Reading all of these posts, it seems that you really drive people away from you, even Christians.   If your purpose is to get people saved, this is a terrible way to go about it.   Why would anyone want to listen to you?  You seem to purposely alienate yourself from others and I guess I cannot understand this behavior.   Why are you targeting gay people?   Why won&#039;t you allow others to understand what is driving this behavior?  Can you allow others to see into your mind so we can &quot;get&quot; you.

Before you urge Joe to find your same &quot;peace&quot;, you should look how you come across to people.   You seem like the &quot;peace-less&quot; one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Labarbera writes to Joe&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Joe, thatâ€™s just it: I donâ€™t want a Christ-less peace. I hope you find Christ, because that is true peace, eternal peace. Youâ€™re rebelling against God; itâ€™s a false peace you promote.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter you certainly don&#8217;t seem like you have found peace!   Reading all of these posts, it seems that you really drive people away from you, even Christians.   If your purpose is to get people saved, this is a terrible way to go about it.   Why would anyone want to listen to you?  You seem to purposely alienate yourself from others and I guess I cannot understand this behavior.   Why are you targeting gay people?   Why won&#8217;t you allow others to understand what is driving this behavior?  Can you allow others to see into your mind so we can &#8220;get&#8221; you.</p>
<p>Before you urge Joe to find your same &#8220;peace&#8221;, you should look how you come across to people.   You seem like the &#8220;peace-less&#8221; one.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Hurst</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-6/#comment-51765</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan Hurst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aw, that&#039;s Peterson&#039;s site.  he&#039;s awesome.

and the blog entry, of course, about my lil&#039; hometown.  

(if &quot;my lil&#039; hometown&quot; sounds endearing, you should know i&#039;m rolling my eyes as i type...)

yeah.  i found out about all that stuff from the past weekend far, far too late, but i&#039;ve seen Peterson speak before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aw, that&#8217;s Peterson&#8217;s site.  he&#8217;s awesome.</p>
<p>and the blog entry, of course, about my lil&#8217; hometown.  </p>
<p>(if &#8220;my lil&#8217; hometown&#8221; sounds endearing, you should know i&#8217;m rolling my eyes as i type&#8230;)</p>
<p>yeah.  i found out about all that stuff from the past weekend far, far too late, but i&#8217;ve seen Peterson speak before.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Brummer</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/02/19/the-sexuality-obcession/comment-page-6/#comment-51761</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Brummer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 21:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My reasons for no longer believing, not just in Christ, but a god in general go long and far beyond being gay.   I feel a bit stressed if anyone thinks I am that shallow that my world and thoughts on god all revolve around sexuality.   My sexuality is one of the smaller issues on my life and has zero to do with my thoughts about god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My reasons for no longer believing, not just in Christ, but a god in general go long and far beyond being gay.   I feel a bit stressed if anyone thinks I am that shallow that my world and thoughts on god all revolve around sexuality.   My sexuality is one of the smaller issues on my life and has zero to do with my thoughts about god.</p>
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