From here:
“It is only a matter of time before we see couples in bed, “on stageâ€, in churches to celebrate sex. Two years ago I predicted that we would have the equivalent of pagan temple prostitutes in evangelical churches. Except in church, it will be married couples (for now) demonstrating it all in public. You’ve been warned.”
Those are the words of Ingrid over at SliceofLaodicea.com.
She continues:
“The clip from YouTube below a promo for Revolution Church’s sex campaign last summer. (One of hundreds of churches engaged in this sort of thing.) I give it 3-5 years before we have the real thing in church somewhere.â€
I guess I’m a little confused. Is Ingrid saying that we will have live married people laying in bed together on church stages, or will we have full-blown old-testament hookers offering their bodies for sale for religious practices in our churches?
Here’s my question: Even if we have two married people depicted on a church stage in a drama setting, is that the equivalent of the pagan temple prostitutes she speaks of? Are they anywhere even close to the same thing? Seems like she’s comparing apples and oranges.
Please help me understand.
We’ve already determined that there are two things that you don’t discuss in church: sex and bodily functions (like dung or flatulence). What else should the church NOT talk about?
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“Here’s my question: Even if we have two married people depicted on a church stage in a drama setting, is that the equivalent of the pagan temple prostitutes she speaks of?”
No, you usually smoke pot before you move to heroin. There is a process, be patient.
I could be wrong, but I seem to remember the church I grew up in doing a skit with a couple in bed (it wasn’t about sex and they were married) over 10 years ago. Although I think the Worship Minister was fired sometime later, but for completely unrelated reasons (as far as I know). And of course, there is the chance that I am remembering incorrectly.
Rick,
In order for the slippery slope argument to be valid, you have to demonstrate that one would likely follow the other, not just that it *could*
Although a married couple depicted in bed could lead to all out public baby-makin’, the likelihood is very small, if not non-existent.
Well, they are married, so the chance is very remote…
are.
you.
kidding.
me?
Puh-leeeeeeeeeze.
When the repressiveness of that brand of fundamentalism stops driving their own to the porn shops, peep shows and internet porn, then I’ll be interested in their views on propriety, sex, etc.
Gimme a break.
Bottom line:
Just because they get “ethics” right. (i.e. don’t have sex outside of marriage) doesn’t mean they have anything to offer the world in relation to understanding the human self.
What.
ever.
Nathan – remember, the couple in bed on the stage is a manifested link in a chain that began years ago with a warning about “could”. Here is how the “slippery slope” chain goes:
Could – is – could – is – could – is – and finally the word “could” is replaced with “will”.
This is fairly easily put to rest. Wager a significant amount of money, and in five years if there’s prostitutes in church Rick wins, otherwise, everyone else wins.
I do not “wager”. I am not fun in any way, I reject humor and any jesting much less foolish. I make Ingrid look like a stand up comic. I do not have significant amounts of money and I will not eat anything cooked in sherry. I only allow myself two television shows a year, both are Notre Dame football games. I may not have five years to live and even if I do I happen to know the exact date of the rapture and it comes within five years.
OK, I do not say that church approved prostitutes will be spawned, but I will say that sexual misconduct will continue to permiate the church in creative ways.
I would say that if there were prostitutes in church than that revival Rick wants so bad is going on.
iggy = )
I really don’t buy slippery slope arguments. I’ve yet to see it proven.
I also don’t want to live in pleasantville with my stepford wife and pretend just because we don’t talk about it, it doesn’t really exist.
Ok, here is the list you asked for. You cant discuss these in the church:
Sex
Flatulance
Dung
Peeing (or Pisseth in the KJV)
Body Odor
Shaving (legs especially)
Hair styles (unless you are going ODM on the women)
Medicine (is Nyquil ok, because it does contain alcohol?)
Grace
That will get me started. I will keep thinking and post some more later.
Here are some more, nator:
False doctrine
Heretics
The Supremecy of Scripture
Prayer and Fasting
Revival
The Rapture
Sound Doctrine
Hell
I’ll post more as they come to me.
Rick,
I hear about most of those frequently (except “the rapture”, which is a 18th century construct only loosely, if at all, based on scripture)- where fundamentalist churches frequently go awry is in taking the “theory” of these and moving into practical application…