“While some “Christian” pastors have slipped their Biblical moorings and are now apologizing for opposing abortion, men like Barak Obama are leading the charge to against pro-life legislation.”

This was the opening line in the post entitled It’s a Mad World, at CRN this morning.

It was followed with the statement

Is it really wrong and “Un-Christian” of Christians to call abortion a sin

So, I followed the link to a little leaven where they asked

Is the church wrong and judgmental for claiming that abortion and homosexuality are sins and contending against them?

Wow! A church that claims it is judgmental to call abortion and homosexualty a sin? A church that says it is wrong to call homosexuality a sin!? Where would this be? Well, it doesn’t exist. Here is the original news story and a few quotes that CRN or A Little Leaven will probably not want you to read

Georgia Baptist pastor who pledged to apologize to gays, women seeking abortions, and couples who live together outside marriage…

His apology was not limited to the aforementioned groups but was directed to those in the secular world that drive by churches each day and never consider visiting because of the judgmental posture…

Lee did not yield ground on his conservative beliefs but said the Church’s established methods of judging others for their shortcomings obviously has not worked. Driving people away from Christ is not an effective way of bringing them to Him, he said through a variety of illustrations….

“I am 37 years old and I believe the Bible is 100 percent truth without error. But the Bible tells us we are to judge our own lives and not the lives of those outside the faith”

And while I firmly believe that Romans 1 is true in its discussion of homosexuality I know that it is much easier to condemn when you do not know those in that lifestyle.

So, this would have been a big, huge, juicy story… if it were actually true. Apologizing for how we have treated these people is not the same as apologizing for what scripture has to say about their lifestyle and choices. I find it very ironic that Christians run to the media for an apology when someone treats them bad, but we are unapologetic for gay bashing, abortion clinic vandalism and arsons, and let’s not mention gadhatesfags.com. Don’t see too much outrage over how we have treated those that need Christ the most.

BTW… I LOVE how they had to drag Barack into the equation. Wouldn’t be a good ODM article without blaming some politicians for where the church has fallen short in affecting society.

  • Share/Bookmark
This entry was posted on Friday, April 25th, 2008 at 11:07 am and is filed under Christian Living, Church and Society, Editor, Hypocrisy, Ken Silva, Legalism, Linked Articles, ODM Responses, ODM Writers, Politics, sexuality. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. Both comments and pings are currently closed.
+/- Collapse/Expand All

16 Comments(+Add)

1   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
April 25th, 2008 at 11:23 am

Is it just me or has there been a real myopic emphasis on what is sin, sin and its description, sin and who has it, and just sin in general? Why is there so little about the Sin-Bearer?

It’s like doing extensive research and argument about disease and painfully little about the cure.

I guess it’s just me…

2   Tim Reed, Owosso MI    http://churchvoices.com
April 25th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

Well, a Little Leaven is run by a Lutheran who’s busy complaining about a church getting a license to serve alcohol.

I guess its only ok if he agrees with you.

3   merry    
April 25th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

The attitudes at A Little Leaven make me physically ill sometimes. I really need to stop commenting there. I feel like I’m about to be run over by a truck soon. But they worry me.

4   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
April 25th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Calling sin a sin is contexualizing. Henceforth please call it:


5   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
April 25th, 2008 at 1:03 pm


6   Neil    
April 25th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

I believe in geographic-harmartiology: Things are sins in some geogrpahic locations that are not sins in others…

7   merry    
April 25th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

That’s awesome. ^^ Like gluttonly may not be considered a sin on the moon, because you don’t weigh as much? ;)

8   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
April 25th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Now merry-that was funny!

9   merry    
April 25th, 2008 at 7:40 pm

Yup, I officially got a truck run over me. Now I’m apparently a basher of fundamentals, and an instrument of Satan. Fundamentals are so much wiser than me because they completely abstain from sin (drinking any amount of alcohol is a sin), and I am only a wannabe Christian because I apparently don’t abstain from sin (I’m not sure how they knew that–creepy). I’m supposed measure everything I do by the Word of God, but when I ask them to measure their beliefs up to the Word of God, they ignore my pleas.

Yes, I take everything personally.

How does one abstain from sin?

10   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
April 25th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

“How does one abstain from sin?”

Get busy pointing it out in others!

11   Dave Muller    http://blog.thewebsiteguy.com.au
April 25th, 2008 at 8:20 pm

How does one abstain from sin?

You have to try REALLY hard…which sounds kinda arminian.

12   iggy    http://wordofmouthministries.blogspot.com/
April 25th, 2008 at 8:35 pm

Calling sin a sin is contexualizing. Henceforth please call it:

A Slice of Laodicea?

; )

13   M.G.    
April 25th, 2008 at 9:00 pm

Getting hung up on alcohol cracks me up.

Someday, when all the saints gather to worship the Lamb that was slain, you’re going to have millions, maybe billions, of people who were regular drinkers. A majority of them probably drank more alcohol than water over the course of their lives.

And then you’re going to have a tiny, microscopic, little sliver of American Protestants who think drinking is a sin. And maybe then, on that day, they will realize how short-sighted they were. Especially when we drink wine at the great feast of our Lord.

14   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
April 25th, 2008 at 9:04 pm

M.G. – I don’t but don’t care who does. I go with the “don’t ask don’t tell” principle.

15   Scotty    http://scottysplace-scotty.blogspot.com/
April 26th, 2008 at 7:45 am

This came in my e-mail today:

A recent study found the average American walks about 900 miles a year.

Another study found Americans drink, on average, 22 gallons of alcohol a year .

That means, on average, Americans get about 41 miles to the gallon.

Kind Of Makes You Proud To Be American.

16   iggy    http://wordofmouthministries.blogspot.com/
April 26th, 2008 at 8:00 am