Comments on: Is Everyone Reading the Same Manifesto?

By: Neil

Neil — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:01:02 +0000

OK, I read the whole thing… all 20 pages. I can see where some ODM of the fundamentalist bent would take some of the comments personally, so would other Evangelicals.

That said, I saw no softening of the truth, no ecumenicalism, no salvation outside of faith in Christ…

Maybe Ken or another could point out something specific to help me out with what they find offensive.

Neil

By: Dave Muller

Dave Muller — Wed, 14 May 2008 12:24:39 +0000

Liberals – unbelievers

Conservatives – believers

Biblically fixed.

Brother Rick, I feel the truth coming from your lips! There’s a great fire coming for those who dare vote liberal or even have a friend in kindy class whose sister thought about welfare being good.

By: Rick Frueh

Rick Frueh — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:15:23 +0000

Well, I’m somewhat serious. Liberalism theologically is a form of unbelief to me. Maybe I misunderstood what you mean by liberal.

By: Neil

Neil — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:11:22 +0000

Rick,

We really need a “sarcasm” emoticon for posts such as your last one… it would help lest people think you’re serious.

Neil

By: Neil

Neil — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:09:42 +0000

Ken Silva,

I think it would be beneficial and maybe even fun if we had a constructive dialogue. But your posts seem to be (nearly) exclusively condescending and ad hominem.

Would you be willing to address one of the issues at hand, such as “How is the manifesto ecumenical?”

Thanks in advance.

Neil

By: Rick Frueh

Rick Frueh — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:09:15 +0000

Liberals – unbelievers

Conservatives – believers

Biblically fixed.

By: Neil

Neil — Tue, 13 May 2008 20:06:42 +0000

There is no left, there is no right, there is no liberal, there is no conservative, they are all man made labels used to both elicit pride to those who label themselves and demean those who they apply the label to.

While it is true that they are labels, and they are used both as instruments of pride and demeaning – there are indeed such things as liberals and conservatives.

Neil

By: merry

merry — Tue, 13 May 2008 17:54:45 +0000

“apparently it is okay to condescend to gender when both actually both male and female are acting inappropriately.”

It has nothing to do with gender . . . try “apparently it is okay to insult and tear down other Christians when actually Christians on both sides of the argument are acting inappropriately.”

By: Rick Frueh

Rick Frueh — Tue, 13 May 2008 17:45:02 +0000

“Let us meet face to face, man to man, Christian to Christian.”

Two out of three ain’t bad!

By: Richard Abanes

Richard Abanes — Tue, 13 May 2008 17:43:37 +0000

I will be there at the special “Critics” session that will be held with Rick Warren and the critics who were invited. Ken, you were personally invited to come – expenses paid. I will see you there – if you accepted. Have you accepted? Let us meet face to face, man to man, Christian to Christian. And we can report here.

RAbanes