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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/05/17/rampant-anti-christian-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-59171</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the AP wire:

&lt;strong&gt;Someone* somewhere is sinning who belongs to an unapproved church organization.&lt;/strong&gt;

* We at the Expose Gazzette are not responsible for the facts, the outcome of any prosecution, the needs of his family, and most especially any restoration process. This poor slob has served our immediate purpose. Please note we are at the most ambivilent about Christ, we don&#039;t believe the Bible, we support abortion and many gay rights, and many of us do what this man got caught doing. However we are happy to help you serve your Lord and Savior in this endeavor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the AP wire:</p>
<p><strong>Someone* somewhere is sinning who belongs to an unapproved church organization.</strong></p>
<p>* We at the Expose Gazzette are not responsible for the facts, the outcome of any prosecution, the needs of his family, and most especially any restoration process. This poor slob has served our immediate purpose. Please note we are at the most ambivilent about Christ, we don&#8217;t believe the Bible, we support abortion and many gay rights, and many of us do what this man got caught doing. However we are happy to help you serve your Lord and Savior in this endeavor!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/05/17/rampant-anti-christian-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-59170</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,

You forgot to add a place to identify the denomination of the sinner, so that one can demonstrate the bankruptcy of said denomination for producing a sinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>You forgot to add a place to identify the denomination of the sinner, so that one can demonstrate the bankruptcy of said denomination for producing a sinner.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/05/17/rampant-anti-christian-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-59169</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an effort to make each expose on the sins of others more uniform, please use this official form in the future.

On the AP wire:

&lt;strong&gt;Someone somewhere is sinning.&lt;/strong&gt;
Now that&#039;s investigative journalsim!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an effort to make each expose on the sins of others more uniform, please use this official form in the future.</p>
<p>On the AP wire:</p>
<p><strong>Someone somewhere is sinning.</strong><br />
Now that&#8217;s investigative journalsim!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Reed, Owosso MI</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/05/17/rampant-anti-christian-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-59167</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Reed, Owosso MI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far the justification we have for spreading gossip:
1) It appeared in the Dallas Star so its not gossip.
2) 1 Timothy 5:20 requires it.
3) Its true so its not gossip.
4) Its not gossip cause we say its not gossip.

Wow, now those are some convincing arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far the justification we have for spreading gossip:<br />
1) It appeared in the Dallas Star so its not gossip.<br />
2) 1 Timothy 5:20 requires it.<br />
3) Its true so its not gossip.<br />
4) Its not gossip cause we say its not gossip.</p>
<p>Wow, now those are some convincing arguments.</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still praying for you Ken... = )

iggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still praying for you Ken&#8230; = )</p>
<p>iggy</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/05/17/rampant-anti-christian-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-59162</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I did not see anything especially egregious in Ken’s recent comments. I have seen worse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The two today were approved rather quickly (as they were remotely on topic) when I saw them, though they were still basically plank/specking at their core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I did not see anything especially egregious in Ken’s recent comments. I have seen worse.</p></blockquote>
<p>The two today were approved rather quickly (as they were remotely on topic) when I saw them, though they were still basically plank/specking at their core.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/05/17/rampant-anti-christian-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-59160</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken - what&#039;s with the Brer Rabbit motif?

Chris - I did not see anything especially egregious in Ken&#039;s recent comments. I have seen worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken &#8211; what&#8217;s with the Brer Rabbit motif?</p>
<p>Chris &#8211; I did not see anything especially egregious in Ken&#8217;s recent comments. I have seen worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 23:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It ain’t gossip boyz, nice try though. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Summation: It&#039;s not gossip because I say so.  No Biblical justification needed.  Please ignore that the instructions to Timothy are for elders and are directed at the local church, not the entirety of Christendom.  Besides, I quoted 1 Timothy 5:20, not all the verses around it.  You have my word that it&#039;s not gossip, your lying eyes and discernment to the contrary.


&lt;blockquote&gt;Chris L., I sure can feel your superior version of Christian love you have for me when you hold my comments in moderation as you’re doing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ken, you have been on and off moderation multiple times.  You&#039;ve been shown grace twice and had it removed, and each time, you&#039;ve abused the minimal rules for immediate posting and been re-added to the moderation queue (and never had a comment removed/unapproved/deleted while you were moderated).  In case you&#039;ve forgotten, the way to avoid being in moderation is to be (for the most part) on-topic and charitable and to avoid posts which are almost solely name-calling, nit-picking, off-topic, exercises in plank/speck, and/or the Christian equivalent of &quot;I know you are but what am I?&quot;  If you can comply for a short while, I&#039;m sure we would allow immediate submission again, following the example of forgiving 70x7.

As for this being loving, it actually is quite so - I&#039;ve been doing quite a bit of research (for my professional work) on split-second decision-making, the effects of electronic media on culture and the way the brain works within that culture.  One interesting finding is that vitriolic posting on the internet is seen as something cathartic, and that the instant gratification of seeing such writing immediately flung at your opponent creates a somewhat addictive &#039;high&#039; in certain people.  (One suggestion is a delay filter for blogs that could add 5-10 minutes between &#039;submit&#039; and &#039;publish&#039; for comments AND posts - which would avoid undue burden in management while providing a more safe environment for all.)

Your abusive posts and comments seem to fit this pattern, and by delaying your &#039;instant gratification&#039;, we are actually doing you a favor, Ken.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;such nuance is beyond their capacity of understanding.&quot; Ah, such lofty erudition. Ya jus’ makes me wish I’s az smart az y’all.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Again, Ken, I was trying to be charitable with you - either you are incapable of nuance and just ignorant of the logical and biblical fallaciousness of your posts, or you are willfully malicious in your nastiness toward the Bride of Christ.  The more charitable interpretation is that you are just ignorant of nuance (like the difference between &quot;public&quot; in the local church and &quot;public&quot; in all of Christendom), and not a malignant, malicious gossip-monger.

&lt;blockquote&gt;And who said I posted this piece? Now, don’t try and say that as General Editor I’m personally responsible for everything posted at CRN&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Now Ken, we&#039;ve had this conversation before.  If CR?N only had the common integrity and accountability of the majority of pagan bloggers who sign their names to articles, you would not have to be concerned that people would assume that the unattributed words written on your blog were written by you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It ain’t gossip boyz, nice try though. </p></blockquote>
<p>Summation: It&#8217;s not gossip because I say so.  No Biblical justification needed.  Please ignore that the instructions to Timothy are for elders and are directed at the local church, not the entirety of Christendom.  Besides, I quoted 1 Timothy 5:20, not all the verses around it.  You have my word that it&#8217;s not gossip, your lying eyes and discernment to the contrary.</p>
<blockquote><p>Chris L., I sure can feel your superior version of Christian love you have for me when you hold my comments in moderation as you’re doing.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ken, you have been on and off moderation multiple times.  You&#8217;ve been shown grace twice and had it removed, and each time, you&#8217;ve abused the minimal rules for immediate posting and been re-added to the moderation queue (and never had a comment removed/unapproved/deleted while you were moderated).  In case you&#8217;ve forgotten, the way to avoid being in moderation is to be (for the most part) on-topic and charitable and to avoid posts which are almost solely name-calling, nit-picking, off-topic, exercises in plank/speck, and/or the Christian equivalent of &#8220;I know you are but what am I?&#8221;  If you can comply for a short while, I&#8217;m sure we would allow immediate submission again, following the example of forgiving 70&#215;7.</p>
<p>As for this being loving, it actually is quite so &#8211; I&#8217;ve been doing quite a bit of research (for my professional work) on split-second decision-making, the effects of electronic media on culture and the way the brain works within that culture.  One interesting finding is that vitriolic posting on the internet is seen as something cathartic, and that the instant gratification of seeing such writing immediately flung at your opponent creates a somewhat addictive &#8216;high&#8217; in certain people.  (One suggestion is a delay filter for blogs that could add 5-10 minutes between &#8217;submit&#8217; and &#8216;publish&#8217; for comments AND posts &#8211; which would avoid undue burden in management while providing a more safe environment for all.)</p>
<p>Your abusive posts and comments seem to fit this pattern, and by delaying your &#8216;instant gratification&#8217;, we are actually doing you a favor, Ken.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;such nuance is beyond their capacity of understanding.&#8221; Ah, such lofty erudition. Ya jus’ makes me wish I’s az smart az y’all.</p></blockquote>
<p>Again, Ken, I was trying to be charitable with you &#8211; either you are incapable of nuance and just ignorant of the logical and biblical fallaciousness of your posts, or you are willfully malicious in your nastiness toward the Bride of Christ.  The more charitable interpretation is that you are just ignorant of nuance (like the difference between &#8220;public&#8221; in the local church and &#8220;public&#8221; in all of Christendom), and not a malignant, malicious gossip-monger.</p>
<blockquote><p>And who said I posted this piece? Now, don’t try and say that as General Editor I’m personally responsible for everything posted at CRN</p></blockquote>
<p>Now Ken, we&#8217;ve had this conversation before.  If CR?N only had the common integrity and accountability of the majority of pagan bloggers who sign their names to articles, you would not have to be concerned that people would assume that the unattributed words written on your blog were written by you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Silva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ain&#039;t gossip boyz, nice try though. Chris L., I sure can feel your superior version of Christian love you have for me when you hold my comments in moderation as you&#039;re doing.

O, and especially so within all your barbs like &quot;water-carrying toadies&quot; and &quot;such nuance is beyond their capacity of understanding.&quot; Ah, such lofty erudition. Ya jus&#039; makes me wish I&#039;s az smart az y&#039;all.

And who said I posted this piece? Now, don&#039;t try and say that as General Editor I&#039;m personally responsible for everything posted at CRN or I&#039;ll have to say that because Rob Bell is founder and teaching pastor of Mars Hill Bible? Church he&#039;s responsible for all that&#039;s taught there. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ain&#8217;t gossip boyz, nice try though. Chris L., I sure can feel your superior version of Christian love you have for me when you hold my comments in moderation as you&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p>O, and especially so within all your barbs like &#8220;water-carrying toadies&#8221; and &#8220;such nuance is beyond their capacity of understanding.&#8221; Ah, such lofty erudition. Ya jus&#8217; makes me wish I&#8217;s az smart az y&#8217;all.</p>
<p>And who said I posted this piece? Now, don&#8217;t try and say that as General Editor I&#8217;m personally responsible for everything posted at CRN or I&#8217;ll have to say that because Rob Bell is founder and teaching pastor of Mars Hill Bible? Church he&#8217;s responsible for all that&#8217;s taught there. <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/05/17/rampant-anti-christian-bias/comment-page-2/#comment-59139</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - Chris, please tell me what the Scriptures mean not to bring an accusation against an elder except by two or three witnesses? How can we claim to have those witnesses and have spoke with them when all we do is link to the secular press?

Isn&#039;t that an unscriptural process? Oh, I know, we believe what the police say before the guy has a trial. Yea, that&#039;s real Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; Chris, please tell me what the Scriptures mean not to bring an accusation against an elder except by two or three witnesses? How can we claim to have those witnesses and have spoke with them when all we do is link to the secular press?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that an unscriptural process? Oh, I know, we believe what the police say before the guy has a trial. Yea, that&#8217;s real Christianity.</p>
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