If ODM’s do something it is bad. If the watcher’s of ODM’s do something it is satire, in jest, or just having some fun. – DT

*sigh*

Since the intent is different the standard is as well. They are serious, Chris was satirical… you are right though, it is hard to argue when people refuse to see the difference in intent.

Neil

Neil, Did I ever say that Ingrid is infalliable? Is that an argument from silence or simply an assumption on your part? – DT

Neither.

Anyhow i’m struggling and all i can say is what a family we are…

if that’s the case, then the answer is that YOU should do an article criticizing SOL/CRN with the tone and decorum you think should be in place.

1. It would show that you’re not a sycophant for ODM’s.
2. It would effectively demonstrate exactly how you think criticism should be articulated.
3. Then we all (ODM”s included) would have a standard by which to post by.

I’m serious.
Really.

There is a “discernment” cottage industry that doesn’t realize the harm it causes to the body of Christ. We’re trying to point that out and counteract it to some extent.

If I felt that this site was indeed counteracting some of the harm (and I would disagree about the level and details of harm, but would agree that there is some harm, just as there is no doubt harm in some things I’ve done that I thought were done God’s way) in a Biblical manner, I would feel free to add any negative views I had about other ODM’s (besides this one.)

As it is, thinking about making a comment about Slice or CRN reminds me of about a month ago when I made the mistake of taking my cat to a “rabies clinic” in a church parking lot. The poor thing, though in his carrier, was the only cat, surrounded by yipping, snarling, DOGS, about 40 of them. Not the proper place for a cat to get treatment that could help him from getting sick.

There is a place for discussing issues and even people behind the issues. No one including myself should consider themselves above needing input from others. But a lot of changes would have to happen to this site before I would start critiquing Slice or CRN here on a regular basis.

(. . . please no comparisons between my cat needing a rabies shot and . . . whatever )

Slice and CRN are also concerned about what causes harm to the body of Christ. When Slice posted comments, I sometimes had a hard time posting there because of the level of the comments – the atmosphere was for example, to Rick Warren, what the rabies clinic atmosphere was to my cat. I strongly disagree with Rick Warren’s philosophy but don’t understand comments about his Hawaiin shirts, etc . . .

You’ve set a goal to be different than Slice and “other ODM’s” – but for quite awhile I’ve seen much more of the attitude you talk about striving towards as exhibited more by Ingrid than yourselves.

(”You” is “you plural,” not “you, Phil.”)

What is sad about #2 is that there are people who don’t realize how bad their behavior really appears to others and they could be helped by having it brought to their attention.

Thus the whole reason this site exists…

There is a “discernment” cottage industry that doesn’t realize the harm it causes to the body of Christ. We’re trying to point that out and counteract it to some extent.