Comments on: A Little Peek Indeed

By: Matt P

Matt P — Wed, 28 May 2008 12:55:58 +0000

Though I know and respect several Calvinists I do find it an utterly baffling scriptural view to embrace. Mind you, I think there’s plenty of “proof texts” for it (misinterpreted in my view), but it justs seems to run contrary to how God interacts with Abraham, Moses et al all the way up to me. If it’s true than the passage where Abraham petitions God to spare Sodom and Gommorah and they converse back and forth spring to mind. What’s God doing there? Puppeteering? Is that dialog a hollow one?

Even beyond the whole “Pre-ordained Elect Individuals” thing which I imagine most people find distasteful to swallow, I don’t really understand why God would create us to experience time linerally, interact with us consistently throughout history in that way, and then say “Psyche! Free will is a cosmic magic trick! I did it all with mirrors!”.

Also, I’ve yet to see a really good explanation of the “Well what’s the point of doing anything then? If you are Elect you are Elect” problem from Calvinists.

By: Zan

Zan — Mon, 26 May 2008 16:56:43 +0000

Mark Driscoll…and I actually love his sermons…unless they’re on calvinism!

By: robbymac

robbymac — Mon, 26 May 2008 16:03:29 +0000

I know some nice calvinists. and some of them are charismatic calvinists, to boot.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:45:16 +0000

Richard Mouw is a Calvinist…a nice one even.

Except hypers don’t view him as a real Calvinist because he’s President of Fuller and did the whole Mormon Temple thing with Ravi.

By: Rick Frueh

Rick Frueh — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:37:14 +0000

“It’s kind of like hunting pheasant.”

OK, funny alert!

By: Break The Terror

Break The Terror — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:33:36 +0000

Well, because there are some Calvinists who preach that you have to evangelize because otherwise how are you going to scare out the elect.

It’s kind of like hunting pheasant.

By: Rick Frueh

Rick Frueh — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:22:35 +0000

If I’m not mistaken, the Way of the Master are Calvinists and they witness a lot.

By: merry

merry — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:19:39 +0000

^The computer didn’t like my hearts! Why are they question marks? The 3 question marks used to be hearts. Grrr. :O

By: merry

merry — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:18:17 +0000

“What about Hobbes?”

Aww, I love Calvin and Hobbes! (The cartoons, I mean.) ? ? ? Lol.

Rick said:
“I am friends with several sincere and humble Calvinists who do not try and evangelize you on every conversation.”

I thought Calvinists don’t evangelize! You know, the whole pre-destination-already-elected-they’ll-become-a-Christian-if-God-elected-them-even-if-noone-evangelizes-to-them thing. I’m sure there’s nice Calvinists in this world. I, personally, have just never met any.

By: Break The Terror

Break The Terror — Mon, 26 May 2008 00:06:02 +0000

Well, Merry, and honestly it’s a theology that encourages laziness and elitism. Communicants of a Calvinistic outlook tend to be the loudest champions for the “inerrancy” of scripture, yet they spend more time deconstructing and creatively interpreting the most well known verse in the entire Bible to justify their limited worldview.

The entire theology reduces God to a character we would likely confine in a mental ward were he human. Snipers and suicide bombers often choose their victims that way, too.