Comments on: The Calvinist Bible

By: Tim Reed, Owosso MI

Tim Reed, Owosso MI — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:17:12 +0000

Brother Lawrence’s Practicing the Presence of God (which I am leading a study through)

His humility and servanthood should be an example to all Christians.

By: Joe C

Joe C — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:30:22 +0000

Thanks Ig I’ll check the stuff out brother.

Joe

By: iggy

iggy — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 11:59:25 +0000

Joe,

The book is called “Anti Christ” at the voice of elijah site. again I just am going through that one book. You can download it or have it sent for free.

But as far as that ministry I am not tha familiar with them to recommend them yet.

By: iggy

iggy — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:07:49 +0000

The book i am reading is available at http://www.voiceofelijah.org/

I am not that knowledgeable of the ministry itself but the book is mostly just the writings of Irenaeus and that Hyppo guys

Also, http://www.ccel.org/ is one of the greatest resources I have found. I just wish I could suport them more.

iggy

By: Joe C

Joe C — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 04:09:21 +0000

I’m talking about Poly and Ignats etc etc… What specific stuff are you reading?

By: Joe C

Joe C — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:49:51 +0000

Ig,

Where can you read those guys’ stuff? You got a link, or do I have to go down to my Library? Thanks mang.

Joe

By: Keith

Keith — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:40:55 +0000

Iggy: I’ll take that as a “possibly yes…”

Thank you, Rick. I can always count on you for in-depth clarification. 8^)>

By: Rick Frueh

Rick Frueh — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:20:00 +0000

“Chris L would be correct”

Thank you for being a Biblical wife, Zan!

By: Zan

Zan — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:45:06 +0000

Chris L would be correct, I have no pretense in asking the questions. I ask, not because I believe I can “debate” the issue or change either of our minds, rather because I am not incredibly well-versed in the details of Calvinism, and truthfully, am wondering how you answer these questions according to your beliefs. That is really it.

By: Chad

Chad — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:42:34 +0000

Rick,
Funny you should mention Matthew 7 as I just preached on it, and that very verse, yesterday.
It is not a scolding at all but a pleading. There is an intimacy to knowing that must be addressed. To “know” (ginosko), is the same verb used to describe how Joseph did not “know” Mary before she conceived a son. Same with how Adam, in Gen. 4:1, “knew” his wife and she bore him a son. Thus, there is this deep intimacy in knowing – one that creates life.

Jesus has come to give us life. He knows us intimately. Remember, this is the same God who knew us before we were formed in our mother’s womb and knows every hair on our head. This is the same Jesus that just spoke to the multitudes and began with “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for you shall inherit the kingdom of heaven.”

There are indeed eternal consequences to our consistently snubbing the God who knows us dearly and loves us even to death. When I read Jesus saying that there could be a day when I will have to say, “depart from me, I never knew you,” I imagine he says it with tears in his eyes, not a smirk on his face.

Thus, Rick, when you quipped, “eat, drink and be merry” that is not accurate at all. The question for us is, what are we creating together with God? What are we doing of eternal signficance in such a way that we are “knowing” (creating) with God? The onus is upon us who know this Jesus to strive to point others to the Way which will bring life, not death.

peace,
Chad