Comments on: Treasure of the Broken Land

By: Phil Miller

Phil Miller — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 19:25:23 +0000

Neil, The discussion was in this post. The main "issue" was some disagreement on the state of a believer's spirit after death but before the resurrection.

By: Neil

Neil — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:16:30 +0000

I too have been gone a while – wherre was the discussion on the resureciton and what was the general issue?

By: Eugene Roberts

Eugene Roberts — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:58:18 +0000

I like what you are saying Phil. I sometimes feel at odds with other Christians not having this view. It is as if they feel that God is going to destroy this world so why take care of it. I often get labelled green…

By: Phil Miller

Phil Miller — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:51:35 +0000

Romans 8 has always been my favourite parts of Scripture and especialy this part talking about creation being liberated. What do you think this is talking about? Is it:
1. Creation as in people?
2. Creation as in nature?

If it includes 2, is it refering to the new earth and new heaven? Or can it be that as we live out our Christian life (being revealed as children of God) now that we can liberate nature by obeying God’s command in Genesis 1:28 & 2:15?

My opinion is that it is talking of creation as the cosmos, or the whole universe. I see what you’re getting at. I think that we can be involved in the process of “liberating” now, but it won’t be fully consummated until Christ returns. It’s the whole now/not yet aspect of the Kingdom.

I think that’s what Paul is getting at in Romans and Corinthians when talks about firstfruits. Christ is the firstfruit, a sign of what is to come. We can partake somewhat now, but the full harvest isn’t yet here.

By: Eugene Roberts

Eugene Roberts — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:38:10 +0000

Romans 8 has always been my favourite parts of Scripture and especialy this part talking about creation being liberated. What do you think this is talking about? Is it:
1. Creation as in people?
2. Creation as in nature?

If it includes 2, is it refering to the new earth and new heaven? Or can it be that as we live out our Christian life (being revealed as children of God) now that we can liberate nature by obeying God’s command in Genesis 1:28 & 2:15?

By: Phil Miller

Phil Miller — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:02:32 +0000

Oops…changed it!

Thanks, Eugene!

By: Eugene Roberts

Eugene Roberts — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:59:43 +0000

Beautiful!
You meant Romans 8:20-21… Happens to the best I see.