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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/23/concerning-discernment-and-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-67017</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Have you ever noticed in the Bible that being in the “majority” was not really a good place to be?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Linda - it just depends on how big/small you define a group to be and what the &quot;majority&quot; is.

For instance, if you were in the &quot;majority&quot; of the 144,000 seen by John in Revelation, would that not be a &quot;good place to be&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Have you ever noticed in the Bible that being in the “majority” was not really a good place to be?</p></blockquote>
<p>Linda &#8211; it just depends on how big/small you define a group to be and what the &#8220;majority&#8221; is.</p>
<p>For instance, if you were in the &#8220;majority&#8221; of the 144,000 seen by John in Revelation, would that not be a &#8220;good place to be&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Thacker</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/23/concerning-discernment-and-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-67015</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Thacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just something to think about...

Have you ever noticed in the Bible that being in the &quot;majority&quot; was not really a good place to be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just something to think about&#8230;</p>
<p>Have you ever noticed in the Bible that being in the &#8220;majority&#8221; was not really a good place to be?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris L</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/23/concerning-discernment-and-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-66955</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris P-

Since you did ask, I believe a completely off-topic rant accompanied by telling the author (unprovoked) to &lt;a href=&quot;http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2008/01/26/stop-the-reductionism/#comment-47174&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;stick it where the sun don&#039;t shine&quot;&lt;/a&gt; was the final straw in a series of drive-by&#039;s that led to your moderation.

Your inability to accurately &quot;read between the lines&quot; (since I can attest from drive-bys on my own posts that your between-the-line reading was about as trustworthy as Obama&#039;s foreign policy judgment - which is to say &#039;nonexistent&#039;) is a pretty good barometer on why discernment may not really be your calling.  You may be a great musician and a calling to work on the res, but discernment &#039;ministry&#039; just ain&#039;t your bag...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris P-</p>
<p>Since you did ask, I believe a completely off-topic rant accompanied by telling the author (unprovoked) to <a href="http://christianresearchnetwork.info/2008/01/26/stop-the-reductionism/#comment-47174" rel="nofollow">&#8220;stick it where the sun don&#8217;t shine&#8221;</a> was the final straw in a series of drive-by&#8217;s that led to your moderation.</p>
<p>Your inability to accurately &#8220;read between the lines&#8221; (since I can attest from drive-bys on my own posts that your between-the-line reading was about as trustworthy as Obama&#8217;s foreign policy judgment &#8211; which is to say &#8216;nonexistent&#8217;) is a pretty good barometer on why discernment may not really be your calling.  You may be a great musician and a calling to work on the res, but discernment &#8216;ministry&#8217; just ain&#8217;t your bag&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/23/concerning-discernment-and-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-66949</link>
		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris P,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Galatians 6

 1.  Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. 
 2.  Carry each other&#039;s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. 
 3.  If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 
 4.  Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else, 
 5.  for each one should carry his own load. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Never have seen you follow the Bible&#039;s instructions... I have only seen you use Jesus to abuse, judge and condemn others...

&lt;blockquote&gt;John 3: 17.  For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 
 18.  Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God&#039;s one and only Son. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Jesus did not even condemn us... we were already condemned... yet you see fit to usurp Jesus Himself and judge and condemn others... and that is what seems to only come across here.

I tell you this in love and knowing full well of the temptation to do this.

peace,
iggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris P,</p>
<blockquote><p>Galatians 6</p>
<p> 1.  Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted.<br />
 2.  Carry each other&#8217;s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.<br />
 3.  If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.<br />
 4.  Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else,<br />
 5.  for each one should carry his own load. </p></blockquote>
<p>Never have seen you follow the Bible&#8217;s instructions&#8230; I have only seen you use Jesus to abuse, judge and condemn others&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>John 3: 17.  For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.<br />
 18.  Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God&#8217;s one and only Son. </p></blockquote>
<p>Jesus did not even condemn us&#8230; we were already condemned&#8230; yet you see fit to usurp Jesus Himself and judge and condemn others&#8230; and that is what seems to only come across here.</p>
<p>I tell you this in love and knowing full well of the temptation to do this.</p>
<p>peace,<br />
iggy</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can back up the statement by Phil. The only comments I&#039;ve made that were moderated were when I used some profanity laced tirade against someone. :)

Even my comments where I suggested an obvious intellectual impairment by Tim Reed were allowed to post because of the factual content. :cool:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can back up the statement by Phil. The only comments I&#8217;ve made that were moderated were when I used some profanity laced tirade against someone. <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Even my comments where I suggested an obvious intellectual impairment by Tim Reed were allowed to post because of the factual content. <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris P.,
One only need look at one of the posts with 300+ comments to see we do very little steering of comments here.  We hardly ever use moderation here at all.  The only time I&#039;ve ever moderated comments personally was when a commenter was drunk and spewing nonsense.  Chris L. has explained the decision to put you and Ken on moderation a lot of times.

As as far as your tone goes, you may think you are exhibiting something along the lines of &quot;tough love&quot;, but it mostly comes across as obnoxiousness.  The fact is that the vast majority have never met you personally, and what you post here is all we see.  You may be a great guy in person, but it doesn&#039;t come across here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris P.,<br />
One only need look at one of the posts with 300+ comments to see we do very little steering of comments here.  We hardly ever use moderation here at all.  The only time I&#8217;ve ever moderated comments personally was when a commenter was drunk and spewing nonsense.  Chris L. has explained the decision to put you and Ken on moderation a lot of times.</p>
<p>As as far as your tone goes, you may think you are exhibiting something along the lines of &#8220;tough love&#8221;, but it mostly comes across as obnoxiousness.  The fact is that the vast majority have never met you personally, and what you post here is all we see.  You may be a great guy in person, but it doesn&#8217;t come across here.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris P.</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/23/concerning-discernment-and-birds/comment-page-1/#comment-66939</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last thing. 
I never edit or moderate any comments at my blog. In fact only extremely profane language will get you censored.
You can call me names or whatever. I don&#039;t care. Whether you love or hate me, opinions of men don&#039;t make me who I am.

The use of moderation creates strawmen, i.e. you are so mich better than those whom you must moderate, the PC police. It also allows you to steer the comments away from or towards any direction you wish. IOW, eisegesis.
 
They also use moderation here also: http://forchrist-contramundum.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One last thing.<br />
I never edit or moderate any comments at my blog. In fact only extremely profane language will get you censored.<br />
You can call me names or whatever. I don&#8217;t care. Whether you love or hate me, opinions of men don&#8217;t make me who I am.</p>
<p>The use of moderation creates strawmen, i.e. you are so mich better than those whom you must moderate, the PC police. It also allows you to steer the comments away from or towards any direction you wish. IOW, eisegesis.</p>
<p>They also use moderation here also: <a href="http://forchrist-contramundum.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://forchrist-contramundum.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tone triumphs over truth. Hmmmm.....
The tone of this blog is juvenile, sacrcastic, sophomoric, ... need I go on?

C&#039;mon Rick.
&quot;“Even if I’m right, if I act like an ass, I am wrong.”
Good one, Nate.
The end doesn’t justify the means!&quot;

Well let&#039;s proclaim error as long as we are &quot;nice&quot; (more subjectivity) about it.
You should write speeches for Obama.

When did I ever tell anyone to &quot;shove it&quot;?

I always stay on point. I am simply able to read between the rhetorical lines.

BTW, no one here  has addressed my points and I am not angry. Such rhetoric is simply the way you try to win an argument.
You play fast and loose with scriptural truth and then distract from that fact by raning about &quot;tone&quot;

Finally an FYI,  to those on this blog, and the theological fascists at my favorite sedevacantist blog at the only places where I ever speak this way. Think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tone triumphs over truth. Hmmmm&#8230;..<br />
The tone of this blog is juvenile, sacrcastic, sophomoric, &#8230; need I go on?</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon Rick.<br />
&#8220;“Even if I’m right, if I act like an ass, I am wrong.”<br />
Good one, Nate.<br />
The end doesn’t justify the means!&#8221;</p>
<p>Well let&#8217;s proclaim error as long as we are &#8220;nice&#8221; (more subjectivity) about it.<br />
You should write speeches for Obama.</p>
<p>When did I ever tell anyone to &#8220;shove it&#8221;?</p>
<p>I always stay on point. I am simply able to read between the rhetorical lines.</p>
<p>BTW, no one here  has addressed my points and I am not angry. Such rhetoric is simply the way you try to win an argument.<br />
You play fast and loose with scriptural truth and then distract from that fact by raning about &#8220;tone&#8221;</p>
<p>Finally an FYI,  to those on this blog, and the theological fascists at my favorite sedevacantist blog at the only places where I ever speak this way. Think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris L.,

Sorry you had to break from your vacation twice! :) I&#039;m still learning, as Rick said, &#039;to be more discerning concerning some commenters.&#039; I&#039;ll do better.

You and I share the heritage of the RM. The one and only NACC I went to was in Louisville a couple of years ago and it was very stirring and moving to see Dave Stone and Jeff Walling share the stage for a few moments to exchange Bibles. The original &#039;Plea&#039; of the RM is still valid, but what needs to happen, in my estimation, is that it needs to transcend denominational lines and--the point of the post--stylistic (or methodological) lines as well. 

jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris L.,</p>
<p>Sorry you had to break from your vacation twice! <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m still learning, as Rick said, &#8216;to be more discerning concerning some commenters.&#8217; I&#8217;ll do better.</p>
<p>You and I share the heritage of the RM. The one and only NACC I went to was in Louisville a couple of years ago and it was very stirring and moving to see Dave Stone and Jeff Walling share the stage for a few moments to exchange Bibles. The original &#8216;Plea&#8217; of the RM is still valid, but what needs to happen, in my estimation, is that it needs to transcend denominational lines and&#8211;the point of the post&#8211;stylistic (or methodological) lines as well. </p>
<p>jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Joe C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris P,

SO...you criticize my grammar, or lackthereof (ignoring the fact that I might have been typing quickly with little time).  Then, you tell me I don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about.  What you don&#039;t realize is I was speaking from experiences with you over many months of your unChristlike comments, and letting you know (as Chris has stated above) that this was why you&#039;re moderated.

So let&#039;s see...bad grammar = I don&#039;t know what I&#039;m talking about.  Good non-response non-sequitor!

Have a good day brother...peace,

Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris P,</p>
<p>SO&#8230;you criticize my grammar, or lackthereof (ignoring the fact that I might have been typing quickly with little time).  Then, you tell me I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m talking about.  What you don&#8217;t realize is I was speaking from experiences with you over many months of your unChristlike comments, and letting you know (as Chris has stated above) that this was why you&#8217;re moderated.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s see&#8230;bad grammar = I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;m talking about.  Good non-response non-sequitor!</p>
<p>Have a good day brother&#8230;peace,</p>
<p>Joe</p>
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