Comments on: Flogging a Dead Horse (or Dolphin or Bishop or Monkey) **UPDATED** http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/ Engaging the depths of God and life in the Kingdom Thu, 24 May 2012 15:27:23 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Neil http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67279 Neil Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:32:24 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67279 I also find it a strawman of the <em>n</em>th degree to ask: "<em>Does that mean that they've become Christians and are now saved?</em>" For the question to be relevant the original tract must imply that the cessation of auto-erotica provides salvation - which of course, is utterly ridiculuos To oppose something someone has not advocated means; a) you do not understand what they said, b) you do not realize what you are saying, or 3) your argument is weak and needs buttressed so you create an issue that previously did not exist. Neil I also find it a strawman of the nth degree to ask: “Does that mean that they’ve become Christians and are now saved?”

For the question to be relevant the original tract must imply that the cessation of auto-erotica provides salvation – which of course, is utterly ridiculuos

To oppose something someone has not advocated means; a) you do not understand what they said, b) you do not realize what you are saying, or 3) your argument is weak and needs buttressed so you create an issue that previously did not exist.

Neil

]]> By: Neil http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67278 Neil Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:27:22 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67278 <blockquote>Yes iggy, I agree, but I think they must first be born again before they have a desire to stop, and therefore the message is lost on them.</blockquote> I disagree that a person must be born-again before they will have any desire to stop viewing pornography. Neil

Yes iggy, I agree, but I think they must first be born again before they have a desire to stop, and therefore the message is lost on them.

I disagree that a person must be born-again before they will have any desire to stop viewing pornography.

Neil

]]> By: Break The Terror http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67241 Break The Terror Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:03:26 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67241 <blockquote>Evan, I have a cat here at home that really needs some killing… he has diabetes and seems to like to crap and pee on my son’s bed… can’t put him down myself as I share in the diabetes… but I am losing my love for cats…</blockquote> On it.

Evan,

I have a cat here at home that really needs some killing… he has diabetes and seems to like to crap and pee on my son’s bed… can’t put him down myself as I share in the diabetes… but I am losing my love for cats…

On it.

]]> By: Jerry Hillyer http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67238 Jerry Hillyer Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:00:41 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67238 PB, You said yourself: AA. Many quit drinking quite apart from Christ or any desire to serve or honor him. Jerry PB,

You said yourself: AA. Many quit drinking quite apart from Christ or any desire to serve or honor him.

Jerry

]]> By: John Hughes http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67229 John Hughes Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:35:59 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67229 P.S. Got you beat by 10, but I thought you were in your 30's. P.S. Got you beat by 10, but I thought you were in your 30’s.

]]> By: John Hughes http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67228 John Hughes Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:35:17 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67228 I agree with what you are saying, just given your history with ODMs I was afraid that statement would just be cannon fodder for them. But we can't live in fear can we? I agree with what you are saying, just given your history with ODMs I was afraid that statement would just be cannon fodder for them. But we can’t live in fear can we?

]]> By: iggy http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67225 iggy Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:27:44 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67225 JH, If someone takes it out of context and twists it to mean what I did not say... then it might... but really show me a verse in the bible that states it is wrong... The bible talks about out thought life... and what we do with those thoughts... Look at a woman with lust... adultery... Yet, what man can look at an attractive woman and not have his mind wonder.... that was the point Jesus made... we all sin... but we can be cleansed by the renewal of our minds through Jesus. Would you condemn your son if yo caught him in the bathroom? I hope not... there is enough shame and guilt around sex as it is... yet instruction (which I never got) as to how we should think and how to truly look at a woman and love her... that is what a young man needs to know... BTW I am 43... if you are much older than that then I guess I am a "young man".. iggy JH,

If someone takes it out of context and twists it to mean what I did not say… then it might… but really show me a verse in the bible that states it is wrong… The bible talks about out thought life… and what we do with those thoughts…

Look at a woman with lust… adultery…

Yet, what man can look at an attractive woman and not have his mind wonder…. that was the point Jesus made… we all sin… but we can be cleansed by the renewal of our minds through Jesus.

Would you condemn your son if yo caught him in the bathroom? I hope not… there is enough shame and guilt around sex as it is… yet instruction (which I never got) as to how we should think and how to truly look at a woman and love her… that is what a young man needs to know…

BTW I am 43… if you are much older than that then I guess I am a “young man”..

iggy

]]> By: John Hughes http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67222 John Hughes Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:17:04 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67222 <blockquote>Iggy: Personally, I think that masturbation is part of being human</blockquote> Well that quote is going to come back and haunt you. What were you thinking young man?

Iggy: Personally, I think that masturbation is part of being human

Well that quote is going to come back and haunt you. What were you thinking young man?

]]> By: iggy http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67212 iggy Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:51:37 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67212 Personally, I think that masturbation is part of being human... it is the misuse of it and the path one follows to satisfy that desire which is wrong. To that I think that xxxchurch.com may be a little off... yet again, to a drunk sometimes it is needed to stop drinking entirely... iggy Personally, I think that masturbation is part of being human… it is the misuse of it and the path one follows to satisfy that desire which is wrong. To that I think that xxxchurch.com may be a little off… yet again, to a drunk sometimes it is needed to stop drinking entirely…

iggy

]]> By: iggy http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/07/27/flogging-a-dead-horse-or-dolphin-or-bishop-or-monkey/comment-page-1/#comment-67211 iggy Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:49:34 +0000 http://christianresearchnetwork.info/?p=1382#comment-67211 PB, Somehow I doubt you stopped when you found Jesus... Not trying to be mean there... and please do not answer! TMI! LOL! iggy PB,

Somehow I doubt you stopped when you found Jesus…

Not trying to be mean there… and please do not answer! TMI! LOL!

iggy

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