A few things happened as a result:
They became more needy, because the government helped them even when they lost all motivation to work or produce
Some had more babies out of wedlock, to insure higher payments of welfare
A generation of welfare-reliant people came up and it has become a cycle.

The Biblical mandate is for us to help our bretheren who are in need. Indeed, we are to help the stranger, but mostly our brothers and sisters in Christ who ae hurting. But, as Paul says, this does not negate their responsibility. If they are able bodied, they ought to work for their food. This benefits them in more than one way; for it allows them to gain skill so that they can eventually get out of the poverty cycle and become self-reliant, and hopefully break the (often) generational chain of poverty.

An absolute disgusting obnoxious blowhard.

>>>>The moral of the story in my post is that if you stand for truth (like Jerry Falwell did), you’ll be prone to attacks from the merciless and wicked Left. If you don’t stand for truth and play the “Can’t we get along?” card like Jimmy Carter and Rick Warren, you’re pretty much left alone by those who are “outside.”<<<<

Kind of an amusing post because Warren and Jerry Falwell were close friends. Falwell had a big impact on Warren’s ministry and he spoke once on the Old Time Gospel Hour, twice at Super Conference, once at LU’s baccalaureate and LU hosted a 3 day East Coast PDC conference in 2003.

I am an alum of Liberty (and a former staffer at Saddleback) and I loved Jerry. I have had very few heroes but he was one. I disagreed eventually with his identification with the GOP (although I am a hardcore conservative) because that can unnecessarily get in the way of the gospel message.

No, my biggest admiration of Jerry was he eventually left the dry desert of hardcore funnymentalism that focused on external standards and took many churches with him.

I know a bunch of you can’t stand Ingrid (and I’m sorry to hear that you missed out), but her Crosstalk show really cuts to the core where no one else dares to go (and why I don’t listen to Janet Parshall’s America anymore).

(BTW, interesting note on JP: I was on her email list for a while, and she kept hawking her show podcasts on her emails. I never bought a single show, and I haven’t received a single email from her show in the past few months. Hmmm…)

I think Jesus would be a pro-life liberal.

how about not listen to any of these people?

the point with Jerry Falwell is that he didn’t just mis-speak once or twice.

he constantly spewed things and then apologized.
It doesn’t matter if you apologize after a while…because there is something profoundly bigoted, fear driven and domineering in his thinking that was demonstrated over years and years.

he may have been right in principle on some things, but he was a horrible representative. Talk about a person that makes even your supporters cringe.

As a pastor on the ground, it was people like Falwell that made my job hell at times.

On one side with the self-righteous ‘god-squad’ and the other with folk who need Jesus, but wouldn’t give me the time of day simply because “christian” was the label we both would bear.

Jerry Falwell was no hero.
Sorry.
Just wasn’t.

and please don’t trounce out some baddies on the “wicked Left”…because I’m not advocating any of them either.

And the fact that so many so-called conservatives do bring out the other extreme is just an attempt to neutralize deserved critique of them.

THAT’s the point.

seriously…

“wicked left”….
who talks like that?

are you claiming Jesus was a liberal?

…more like a libertarian

you wrote:

Mr. Limbaugh and his disgusting form of idiotic and unchristian talk show should be rejected by any follower of Jesus Christ. JESUS WAS NOT AND NEVER WILL BE A CONSERVATIVE!!

It must grieve the heart of God to see His people enjoined to such Christless blether.

How very RDM of you. Limbaugh doesn’t claim to be a Christian–although I think his brother has written a book chronicling the systematic persecution of Christians in America. Just because you don’t like the guy doesn’t mean he is worthless any more than the worthless drivel that comes from ODM’s means we don’t like them. It means you share a different perspective than he does and you take offense at his means. He’s not right about everything–but he is documented to be right by an independent source about 97% of the time.

Be nice Rick. You’re just angry because you’re a Notre Dame fan and they fired a great coach in TW.

jerry

PS–are you claiming Jesus was a liberal? Nice.

The moral of the story in my post is that if you stand for truth (like Jerry Falwell did),

Falwell = truth? Well, I guess even a blind squirell finds a nut now and then

So anyone who stands for truth as they see it is OK? Muslim extremists who stand for truth and get attacked for it are victims like Falwell?

Had she lived in 1860, she would not have supported Abraham Lincoln’s Third Party candidacy for POTUS.