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	<title>Comments on: Guilt by Association</title>
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		<title>By: BCP</title>
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		<dc:creator>BCP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christian Rap?

Guilt by association, indeed!</description>
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<p>Guilt by association, indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: pastorboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>pastorboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 12:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BCP- That was a mix from a Christian Rap CD my buddy put together!</description>
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		<title>By: BCP</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/08/26/guilt-by-association-2/comment-page-1/#comment-71417</link>
		<dc:creator>BCP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PB,

http://pastorboy.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/repent-and-witness-nyc-2008/

If you wish to be consistent, perhaps removing the &quot;whole lotta love&quot; guitar rift from this video would be helpful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PB,</p>
<p><a href="http://pastorboy.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/repent-and-witness-nyc-2008/" rel="nofollow">http://pastorboy.wordpress.com/2008/08/16/repent-and-witness-nyc-2008/</a></p>
<p>If you wish to be consistent, perhaps removing the &#8220;whole lotta love&#8221; guitar rift from this video would be helpful?</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PB,

Great I am anticipating all the extra hits from people that &quot;get&quot; satire. Maybe I should do a post on how you stated you don&#039;t understand or get it... that should be a great one for you to post to.

BTW Ingrid accused me of spreading rumors... these rumors were from something she stated from her own mouth and on her own show... someone must commented on it...

Then when that same person mentioned something else I defended Ingrid and stated that that comment was not proper... 

So do what you want and will... but the hate you see is the reflection of the ODM world as many see it. Go look in the mirror and work out your own ya-ya&#039;s before coming to my door and telling me about mine.

But, then every link I get my hits go up another 100... except for the time Ingrid did a post on me... then beards had many more hits than what came from Slice...

I might even link back and state how your site is a satire... more people would believe I. Todyaso than you... LOL!

Be blessed,
iggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PB,</p>
<p>Great I am anticipating all the extra hits from people that &#8220;get&#8221; satire. Maybe I should do a post on how you stated you don&#8217;t understand or get it&#8230; that should be a great one for you to post to.</p>
<p>BTW Ingrid accused me of spreading rumors&#8230; these rumors were from something she stated from her own mouth and on her own show&#8230; someone must commented on it&#8230;</p>
<p>Then when that same person mentioned something else I defended Ingrid and stated that that comment was not proper&#8230; </p>
<p>So do what you want and will&#8230; but the hate you see is the reflection of the ODM world as many see it. Go look in the mirror and work out your own ya-ya&#8217;s before coming to my door and telling me about mine.</p>
<p>But, then every link I get my hits go up another 100&#8230; except for the time Ingrid did a post on me&#8230; then beards had many more hits than what came from Slice&#8230;</p>
<p>I might even link back and state how your site is a satire&#8230; more people would believe I. Todyaso than you&#8230; LOL!</p>
<p>Be blessed,<br />
iggy</p>
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		<title>By: IWanthetruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>IWanthetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sitting here thinking, if we went back in time and really think about it, could it be that the closer to when Christ walked the earth the better the doctrine and theology was?

 So as we move away say 60 years, 100 years, 450 years 1500 years the more tainted the truth became until now, nobody has it right but it is just a hodge podge mix of it all?

 &lt;b&gt;Mat 5:48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.&lt;/b&gt; What does that mean and if we are told that then we must have the capacity to be moving in that direction?
I like Matthew Henry&#039;s take on it;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Lastly, Our Saviour concludes this subject with this exhortation (v. 48), Be ye therefore perfect, as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Which may be understood, 1. In general, including all those things wherein we must be followers of God as dear children. Note, It is the duty of Christians to desire, and aim at, and press toward a perfection in grace and holiness, Phil. 3:12–14. And therein we must study to conform ourselves to the example of our heavenly Father, 1 Pt. 1:15, 16. Or, 2. In this particular before mentioned, of doing good to our enemies; see Lu. 6:36. It is God’s perfection to forgive injuries and to entertain strangers, and to do good to the evil and unthankful, and it will be ours to be like him. We that owe so much, that owe our all, to the divine bounty, ought to copy it out as well as we can. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know, I am just thinking that we seem battle over so much and yet the commands of Christ are very simple, there&#039;s only 2. You know what they are? 

I am responsibile for my own walk with Christ and I must live and act, with everything I do, within those two commandments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sitting here thinking, if we went back in time and really think about it, could it be that the closer to when Christ walked the earth the better the doctrine and theology was?</p>
<p> So as we move away say 60 years, 100 years, 450 years 1500 years the more tainted the truth became until now, nobody has it right but it is just a hodge podge mix of it all?</p>
<p> <b>Mat 5:48  Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.</b> What does that mean and if we are told that then we must have the capacity to be moving in that direction?<br />
I like Matthew Henry&#8217;s take on it;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Lastly, Our Saviour concludes this subject with this exhortation (v. 48), Be ye therefore perfect, as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Which may be understood, 1. In general, including all those things wherein we must be followers of God as dear children. Note, It is the duty of Christians to desire, and aim at, and press toward a perfection in grace and holiness, Phil. 3:12–14. And therein we must study to conform ourselves to the example of our heavenly Father, 1 Pt. 1:15, 16. Or, 2. In this particular before mentioned, of doing good to our enemies; see Lu. 6:36. It is God’s perfection to forgive injuries and to entertain strangers, and to do good to the evil and unthankful, and it will be ours to be like him. We that owe so much, that owe our all, to the divine bounty, ought to copy it out as well as we can. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, I am just thinking that we seem battle over so much and yet the commands of Christ are very simple, there&#8217;s only 2. You know what they are? </p>
<p>I am responsibile for my own walk with Christ and I must live and act, with everything I do, within those two commandments.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not care what Pelagian believes just as much as I do not care what Calvin believes.

I am a Fruehist, and I reject any semi-Fruehists who dilute and destroy the foundations of my teachings. :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not care what Pelagian believes just as much as I do not care what Calvin believes.</p>
<p>I am a Fruehist, and I reject any semi-Fruehists who dilute and destroy the foundations of my teachings. <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2008/08/26/guilt-by-association-2/comment-page-1/#comment-71390</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THIS JUST IN -

Zapruder&#039;s film proves it was Rick Warren in the grassy noll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THIS JUST IN -</p>
<p>Zapruder&#8217;s film proves it was Rick Warren in the grassy noll.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle in WI</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle in WI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not calling anyone semi-pelegian just give background on where it is from and origins of the word itself.

Although I am sure there are people out there who would hold this poistion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not calling anyone semi-pelegian just give background on where it is from and origins of the word itself.</p>
<p>Although I am sure there are people out there who would hold this poistion.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is from wikipedia, but I thought I would use Britianica because it is a way better source. Why can you not just accept the facts as they are? Does it really matter when the word was first coined?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It matters because it&#039;s the typical game that Calvinists, and unfortunately a lot of other Christians, have played throughout history.  By defining our &quot;enemies&quot; however we like, we can freely demonize them.

Even in the articles you put up, I don&#039;t see anyone who would freely call themself a &quot;semi-Pelagian&quot;.  Even if it is 500 years old (I&#039;m still skeptical), it has always been a term one group used to denigrate another.  It&#039;s one group defining the beliefs of another - that never ends well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is from wikipedia, but I thought I would use Britianica because it is a way better source. Why can you not just accept the facts as they are? Does it really matter when the word was first coined?</p></blockquote>
<p>It matters because it&#8217;s the typical game that Calvinists, and unfortunately a lot of other Christians, have played throughout history.  By defining our &#8220;enemies&#8221; however we like, we can freely demonize them.</p>
<p>Even in the articles you put up, I don&#8217;t see anyone who would freely call themself a &#8220;semi-Pelagian&#8221;.  Even if it is 500 years old (I&#8217;m still skeptical), it has always been a term one group used to denigrate another.  It&#8217;s one group defining the beliefs of another &#8211; that never ends well.</p>
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		<title>By: IWanthetruth</title>
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		<dc:creator>IWanthetruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Arminianism&lt;/b&gt; is a school of soteriological thought within Protestant Christianity based on the theological ideas of the Dutch Reformed theologian Jacobus Arminius (1560-1609)[1] and his historic followers, the Remonstrants. The doctrines&#039; acceptance stretches through much of mainstream, evangelical Protestantism. Due to the influence of Anglican priest and evangelist John Wesley, Arminianism is perhaps most prominent in the Methodist movement.[citation needed]

Arminianism holds to the following tenets:

Humans are naturally unable to make any effort towards salvation (see also prevenient grace). 
Salvation is possible only by God&#039;s grace, which cannot be merited. 
No works of human effort can cause or contribute to salvation. 
God&#039;s election is conditional on faith in the sacrifice and Lordship of Jesus Christ. 
Christ&#039;s atonement was made on behalf of all people. 
God allows his grace to be resisted by those who freely reject Christ. 
Salvation can be lost, as continued salvation is conditional upon continued faith. 
Arminianism is most accurately used to define those who affirm the original beliefs of Jacobus Arminius himself, but the term can also be understood as an umbrella for a larger grouping of ideas including those of Hugo Grotius, John and Charles Wesley, and others. There are two primary perspectives on how the system is applied in detail: Classical Arminianism, which sees Arminius as its figurehead, and Wesleyan Arminianism, which sees John Wesley as its figurehead. Wesleyan Arminianism is sometimes synonymous with Methodism. In addition, &lt;i&gt;Arminianism is understood by some of its critics to also include Semipelagianism or even Pelagianism, though proponents of both primary perspectives vehemently deny these claims.&lt;/i&gt;

Isn&#039;t this just the cat&#039;s meow... may be some likeness in both heh!

&lt;b&gt;Within the broad scope of Church history, &lt;i&gt;Arminianism is closely related to Calvinism (or Reformed theology), and the two systems share both history and many doctrines in common.&lt;/i&gt; Nonetheless, they are often viewed as rivals within Evangelicalism because of their disagreement over the &lt;i&gt;doctrines of predestination and salvation.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Arminianism</b> is a school of soteriological thought within Protestant Christianity based on the theological ideas of the Dutch Reformed theologian Jacobus Arminius (1560-1609)[1] and his historic followers, the Remonstrants. The doctrines&#8217; acceptance stretches through much of mainstream, evangelical Protestantism. Due to the influence of Anglican priest and evangelist John Wesley, Arminianism is perhaps most prominent in the Methodist movement.[citation needed]</p>
<p>Arminianism holds to the following tenets:</p>
<p>Humans are naturally unable to make any effort towards salvation (see also prevenient grace).<br />
Salvation is possible only by God&#8217;s grace, which cannot be merited.<br />
No works of human effort can cause or contribute to salvation.<br />
God&#8217;s election is conditional on faith in the sacrifice and Lordship of Jesus Christ.<br />
Christ&#8217;s atonement was made on behalf of all people.<br />
God allows his grace to be resisted by those who freely reject Christ.<br />
Salvation can be lost, as continued salvation is conditional upon continued faith.<br />
Arminianism is most accurately used to define those who affirm the original beliefs of Jacobus Arminius himself, but the term can also be understood as an umbrella for a larger grouping of ideas including those of Hugo Grotius, John and Charles Wesley, and others. There are two primary perspectives on how the system is applied in detail: Classical Arminianism, which sees Arminius as its figurehead, and Wesleyan Arminianism, which sees John Wesley as its figurehead. Wesleyan Arminianism is sometimes synonymous with Methodism. In addition, <i>Arminianism is understood by some of its critics to also include Semipelagianism or even Pelagianism, though proponents of both primary perspectives vehemently deny these claims.</i></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this just the cat&#8217;s meow&#8230; may be some likeness in both heh!</p>
<p><b>Within the broad scope of Church history, <i>Arminianism is closely related to Calvinism (or Reformed theology), and the two systems share both history and many doctrines in common.</i> Nonetheless, they are often viewed as rivals within Evangelicalism because of their disagreement over the <i>doctrines of predestination and salvation.</i></b></p>
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