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		<title>By: nc</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85682</link>
		<dc:creator>nc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rick, 

well, there&#039;s just another reminder of what you have to wade through in the spittoon if you&#039;re convinced you could find a nickel there....

a wooden nickel...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rick, </p>
<p>well, there&#8217;s just another reminder of what you have to wade through in the spittoon if you&#8217;re convinced you could find a nickel there&#8230;.</p>
<p>a wooden nickel&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85667</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another salvo pointed at the conference that does not mention Jesus in their advertisement. 

http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=8786

...for thou that judgest doest the same things... Rom.2:1

BTW - On my blog, does &quot;Lion of Judah&quot; count as Jesus&#039;s Name? How about &quot;Christian Research Network&quot;? How about &quot;Slice of Laodicea&quot;? I guess my blog comes the closest, which means in spiritual terms &quot;I WIN!&quot;.

Neither the &quot;&lt;strong&gt;about us&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; nor the &quot;&lt;strong&gt;mission statement&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; sections on CRN, the very blog on which Dwayna is posting, mentions the name of Jesus either.

I love playing the game of &quot;Pin the tail on the hypocrite&quot;, it&#039;s so easy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another salvo pointed at the conference that does not mention Jesus in their advertisement. </p>
<p><a href="http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=8786" rel="nofollow">http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=8786</a></p>
<p>&#8230;for thou that judgest doest the same things&#8230; Rom.2:1</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; On my blog, does &#8220;Lion of Judah&#8221; count as Jesus&#8217;s Name? How about &#8220;Christian Research Network&#8221;? How about &#8220;Slice of Laodicea&#8221;? I guess my blog comes the closest, which means in spiritual terms &#8220;I WIN!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Neither the &#8220;<strong>about us</strong>&#8221; nor the &#8220;<strong>mission statement</strong>&#8221; sections on CRN, the very blog on which Dwayna is posting, mentions the name of Jesus either.</p>
<p>I love playing the game of &#8220;Pin the tail on the hypocrite&#8221;, it&#8217;s so easy!</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85629</link>
		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pointed out that Dwayna endorses Lauren Stratford to Ken, and Ken didn&#039;t care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pointed out that Dwayna endorses Lauren Stratford to Ken, and Ken didn&#8217;t care.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendt Waters</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85628</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendt Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iggy, Ken denied that Dwayna endorses Lauren Stratford or Ken denied that Lauren is a fraud?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iggy, Ken denied that Dwayna endorses Lauren Stratford or Ken denied that Lauren is a fraud?</p>
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		<title>By: nc</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85627</link>
		<dc:creator>nc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s up with the weird picture of her hiding in the flowers? Is she a little girl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s up with the weird picture of her hiding in the flowers? Is she a little girl?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85626</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW - here is how the Shepherd&#039;s Conference, created by Grace Community, describes itself on the website - 

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Shepherds&#039; Fellowship is an association (not a denomination) of churches rallying around the authority and sufficiency of Scripture, the importance of expository preaching, and the centrality of a biblical philosophy of ministry. The Fellowship serves as both a resource and an encouragement for pastors and Christian leaders around the globe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No mention of Jesus and the description centers on men (preachers). As sister Dwayna said in her post -

&quot;Praising people in the name of Jesus&quot;.

I cannot abide these guys who lift themselves up as rallying around the authority and sufficiency of Scripture, the importance of expository preaching, and the centrality of a biblical philosophy of ministry. 

Let no man move you from the simplicity that is in Christ. Not with enticing words of men&#039;s wisdom. The attitude that &lt;strong&gt;&quot;I preach and teach and worship and witness and live completely in accordance with the Biblical outline&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; is not only absurd, the attitude itself is a neon sign that informs us that you do not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW &#8211; here is how the Shepherd&#8217;s Conference, created by Grace Community, describes itself on the website &#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>The Shepherds&#8217; Fellowship is an association (not a denomination) of churches rallying around the authority and sufficiency of Scripture, the importance of expository preaching, and the centrality of a biblical philosophy of ministry. The Fellowship serves as both a resource and an encouragement for pastors and Christian leaders around the globe.</p></blockquote>
<p>No mention of Jesus and the description centers on men (preachers). As sister Dwayna said in her post -</p>
<p>&#8220;Praising people in the name of Jesus&#8221;.</p>
<p>I cannot abide these guys who lift themselves up as rallying around the authority and sufficiency of Scripture, the importance of expository preaching, and the centrality of a biblical philosophy of ministry. </p>
<p>Let no man move you from the simplicity that is in Christ. Not with enticing words of men&#8217;s wisdom. The attitude that <strong>&#8220;I preach and teach and worship and witness and live completely in accordance with the Biblical outline&#8221;</strong> is not only absurd, the attitude itself is a neon sign that informs us that you do not.</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85625</link>
		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://lightingtheway.blogspot.com/2006/07/cornerstone-offensive.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is the post that where she endorses Lauren Stratford.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://lightingtheway.blogspot.com/2006/07/cornerstone-offensive.html" rel="nofollow">Here is the post that where she endorses Lauren Stratford.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85624</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry -

http://lightingtheway.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry -</p>
<p><a href="http://lightingtheway.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://lightingtheway.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/01/09/word-watcher/comment-page-1/#comment-85623</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Brendt, much better. I would personally like some things and not like others in that conference. But I wonder how many churches that would hate it use &quot;innovation&quot; techniques to market their church. (Grace Community for example, the church that Dwayna moved to California to attend and serve in)

* Web site
* Newspaper
* Church billboards
* Church signs
* Fliers
* Pamphlets
* Conferences

as well as these artificial enhancements

* $$$ - Sound system
* $$$ - Lighting
* $$$ - Salaries
* $$$ - CDs (music and teaching)
* $$$ - Music programs for all ages
* $$$ - Books
* $$$ - Conferences
* $$$ - Christian Cruises
* $$$ - Holy Land trips
* $$$ - Building programs
* $$$ - Massive debt for buildings


Some of these are not ontologically wrong, however how can you attack something when your brand of evangelicalism employs these techniques?  And when the main speaker of the Shpherd&#039;s Conference preaches a multi-part series called &quot;Why I am a Calvinist&quot; with other relevant topics like &quot;Why Calvinism necessitates premellenialism&quot;, well then, your conference is no better than the Innovation.

One conferences discusses how to reach people, sometimes uses some questionable techniques, while the other conference is an Amwayesque motivational gathering for geeks with a common dcotrinal bent.  

One conference runs the risk of eliciting false conversions due to alluring techniques,

and

The other conference runs the risk of not reaching some for whom Jesus died because of their limited atonement views and their preoccupation in systemaic theology.

The choice is this: Is it more desirable to reach as many people as possible and eliciting some false professions, or spend an inordinate time rehashing reformed theology while unregenerate souls march to eternity.

I believe Acts 1:8 gives us a clear view into what God desires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Brendt, much better. I would personally like some things and not like others in that conference. But I wonder how many churches that would hate it use &#8220;innovation&#8221; techniques to market their church. (Grace Community for example, the church that Dwayna moved to California to attend and serve in)</p>
<p>* Web site<br />
* Newspaper<br />
* Church billboards<br />
* Church signs<br />
* Fliers<br />
* Pamphlets<br />
* Conferences</p>
<p>as well as these artificial enhancements</p>
<p>* $$$ &#8211; Sound system<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Lighting<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Salaries<br />
* $$$ &#8211; CDs (music and teaching)<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Music programs for all ages<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Books<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Conferences<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Christian Cruises<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Holy Land trips<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Building programs<br />
* $$$ &#8211; Massive debt for buildings</p>
<p>Some of these are not ontologically wrong, however how can you attack something when your brand of evangelicalism employs these techniques?  And when the main speaker of the Shpherd&#8217;s Conference preaches a multi-part series called &#8220;Why I am a Calvinist&#8221; with other relevant topics like &#8220;Why Calvinism necessitates premellenialism&#8221;, well then, your conference is no better than the Innovation.</p>
<p>One conferences discusses how to reach people, sometimes uses some questionable techniques, while the other conference is an Amwayesque motivational gathering for geeks with a common dcotrinal bent.  </p>
<p>One conference runs the risk of eliciting false conversions due to alluring techniques,</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>The other conference runs the risk of not reaching some for whom Jesus died because of their limited atonement views and their preoccupation in systemaic theology.</p>
<p>The choice is this: Is it more desirable to reach as many people as possible and eliciting some false professions, or spend an inordinate time rehashing reformed theology while unregenerate souls march to eternity.</p>
<p>I believe Acts 1:8 gives us a clear view into what God desires.</p>
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		<title>By: iggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>iggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My biggest issue with Dwayna is she endorses &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cornerstonemag.com/features/iss090/sideshow.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lauren Stratford&lt;/a&gt; who like Mike Warnke was found to be a fraud. I pointed this out to Ken Silva and he denied this. Dwayana also has attacked JPUSA and accused them of being Satanists.

As far as her &quot;Doctrinally sound&quot; I think that she is as sound as Ken and Ingrid who mouth grace yet push works righteousness.

She is a wacko and yet she is on the approved list at CRN.

iggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My biggest issue with Dwayna is she endorses <a href="http://www.cornerstonemag.com/features/iss090/sideshow.htm" rel="nofollow">Lauren Stratford</a> who like Mike Warnke was found to be a fraud. I pointed this out to Ken Silva and he denied this. Dwayana also has attacked JPUSA and accused them of being Satanists.</p>
<p>As far as her &#8220;Doctrinally sound&#8221; I think that she is as sound as Ken and Ingrid who mouth grace yet push works righteousness.</p>
<p>She is a wacko and yet she is on the approved list at CRN.</p>
<p>iggy</p>
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