Let me start my first post on CRN.Info by saying that I see it as a real big privilege and honour to have been invited to write for this site. I first came to CRN.Info via a link on Chad Holtz’s site who I found on A Little Leaven. So never say that nothing good can come from the ADM’s… What I like so much about CRN.Info is that everybody gets a chance to speak their mind on whatever subject is posted and comments only get moderated in the most extreme circumstances. I have only once seen comments deleted and that was to protect someone who frequently comments here and who is mostly critical about CRN.Info. There are not many sites on the web, and that includes Christian sites, that have this kind of integrity and I count myself fortunate to be in such company.

The Forest or the Tree?

Lately there have been a number of posts at CRN.Info that got derailed because of people getting hooked onto one small detail in the post. One such example is the post by Jerry on the 3rd chapter of Rob Bell’s book Jesus Wants To Save Christians. The reason why it bothers me is not so much that the thread got derailed, although it does make me “die moer in”*, but that people missed the message of the post. It just gets lost in all the noise of the comments. This got me thinking about some things my dad taught me.

My dad was a wise man who faithfully pastored small churches, never looked for the glory and had a spotless character. If I can grow to be half the man he was… He gave me these bits of advice:

Put it on the shelf…

When reading a book or listening to a sermon and there is something that you do not like or understand at that point in time, don’t ignore that together with the rest of the book or sermon but rather write the thought down, put it away and revisit it later.

This advice has come in handy on many occasions in two ways. Firstly when something I read or heard some time ago would come back and suddenly make sense or be truth in another context or time. Sometimes it was things that I heavily disagreed with but then God seems to open up some truth to me and use the previously discarded to change something in me. The second way is that when I do that I can actually focus on what I can learn and appropriate now in my life. In other words don’t get so caught up in the detail that you don’t agree with or don’t understand that you miss the core message that God wants you to hear.

He might be a donkey but…

Growing up in a legalistic pentecostal denomination there was lots of preaching that made you feel like a useless piece of you know what and this caused me to dislike a lot of these preachers (my dad was quite the opposite). When there was a service where one of these preachers spoke I protested loudly about going and then my dad would drop this bit of wisdom:

Separate the message from the man. If God used Balaam’s donkey he can use anyone to get the message across.**

I think we can use some of that… I might not like John MacArthur’s Truth War-type attitude but I learned a lot from the Grace To You programs. You might not like Rob Bell’s fuzzy language but his fresh perspective on things might just open something new about God you’ve missed before. Separate the message from the man and you might just hear God speak to you.

The diamond in the rough…

Look for the wisdom, truth that applies to you, in the most unlikely places

Sometimes people will come with the biggest lot of nonsense and you might think what a load of … That is when you need to start prospecting, filter out the dirt and find the diamond. Most of the ADM’s writing falls into this category for me and like prospecting it is hard work but sometimes there is wisdom to be found that can be applied to my life (Even if it is to learn not to act in similar fashion).

These bits of advice might not be deeply philosophical or theological but I found God speaking to me at the most unlikely of times and that makes them precious to me. (And because my dad said so…)

* An Afrikaans expression for very angry
** I’m not calling anyone a donkey

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17 Comments(+Add)

1   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
February 17th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

Eugene,

1) Welcome! Great first post!

2) Your section on Balaam’s ass reminded me of a Rich Mullins quote: “I’m always leery of people who want God to speak through them. I’m reminded that in the Bible God spoke through Balaam’s ass, and He has been speaking through them ever since.”

2   Rick Frueh    http://http?//followingjudahslion.com
February 17th, 2009 at 12:16 pm

Gene – a good thought about having a more expansive perspective.

Bath water+ Baby = Wrong.

3   nc    
February 17th, 2009 at 1:08 pm

I get your point…and I think it’s a good one.

At the same time, I worry that the “message” many times is hopelessly bound up in the person and their way of being in the world.

I don’t know if we can always draw so clear a line between the “man and the message”.

Grace to You looks and sounds a whole lot different in light of the heart revealing “Truth War” disposition of the man.

Or his and others throwing around labels like “spiritual terrorist” in the current day to marginalize those with whom they disagree.

Yikes…

4   John Hughes    
February 17th, 2009 at 1:14 pm

Welcome Eugene. Great first post. You only get one free pass. You knew that . . . right? :-)

5   Brendt    http://csaproductions.com/blog/
February 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

The “put it on the shelf” section reminds me a lot of what RC Sproul used to tell his students. Not too shabby a company. ;-)

6   Nathanael    http://www.borrowedbreath.com/
February 17th, 2009 at 2:11 pm

All good stuff, brother.
Your father was clearly a wise man, and you reveal your wisdom through listening to and learning from his.

Shalom

7   Rick Frueh    http://http?//followingjudahslion.com
February 17th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

#4 – Good point, John. In his next post we will expose him for the apostate heretic he really is and publicly rip him to shreds. Until then, we can encourage Gene. :)

8   Chad on Sabbath    http://www.chadholtz.wordpress.com
February 17th, 2009 at 2:52 pm

Only a first post from Eugene could wake me from my pleasant slumber :)

Well done, brother. CRN.info is blessed to have you on board.

grace and peace,
Chad

9   Pastorboy    http://crninfo.wordpress.com
February 17th, 2009 at 3:36 pm

#8

I’d of thought that Chad would have come out of slumber when his Dukies got the tar beat out of them by North Carolina.

BTW, God knew the outcome of the game before it happened.

Eugene,

I wonder if we could apply these words of wisdom in our own lives as we deal with the so-called ADM’s (myself included). I mean, when I see posts like this it makes me wonder how full of grace many proponents of grace are actually filled with!

10   Chad on Sabbath    http://www.chadholtz.wordpress.com
February 17th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

BTW, God knew the outcome of the game before it happened.

Agreed. Just like he knows that even all UNC fans (and the rest of the pagan world) will one day be reconciled to himself in glory.
:)

peace

11   Eugene    http://eugeneroberts.wordpress.com
February 18th, 2009 at 12:44 am

Thank you all for the warm welcome (and the free pass).

Chris L, do you think that if I would say “God says…” I would make an ass of me? :)

nc, I get your point and I think it is a good one. My point is that God’s message is written on soiled paper and that includes all of us. Sometimes the paper is just so soiled that it takes discernment to hear/read the message.

Hey, I think I just gave a new meaning to discernment! Just think how great it would be if the ADM’s use discernment in this way…

12   Eugene    http://eugeneroberts.wordpress.com
February 18th, 2009 at 12:51 am

Pastorboy: I wonder if we could apply these words of wisdom in our own lives as we deal with the so-called ADM’s (myself included). I mean, when I see posts like this it makes me wonder how full of grace many proponents of grace are actually filled with!

Applying it to my life when dealing with ADM’s was part of my point.

As for what comes from Itodyaso’s pen… He’s a real ass… no wait that doesn’t work anymore…

13   Joe    http://joemartino.name
February 18th, 2009 at 12:51 am

Pastorboy,
Don’t tell me you’re a UNC fan. Please

14   Eugene    http://eugeneroberts.wordpress.com
February 18th, 2009 at 12:59 am

Chad, thank you for the support. Now go and sin no more…

15   Pastorboy    http://crninfo.wordpress.com
February 18th, 2009 at 9:43 am

#13

college hoops? UCLA
college fb? USC
pro hoops? Lakers
This has been the case my whole life.

16   Jerry    http://www.dangoldfinch.wordpress.com
February 18th, 2009 at 10:15 am

USC?? You just lost all benefit of any doubt whatsoever.

17   Pastorboy    http://crninfo.wordpress.com
February 18th, 2009 at 3:25 pm

#16You are just hating on me because we smoked the Buckeyes this year…and in amny other years…