You know, this would be nice if I thought for a minute you believed it. I’m sorry, I hate to ruin a great post and thread with such a off-color comment. But you show now indication whatsoever that you believe this or practice it.
Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Thats the way to get there!

One thing for sure-
There would be no need for ADM’s, ODM’s or this blog, because the travesty we call Christianity today in America does not represent a living Christ walking in us, showing the power of the Holy Spirit horizontly to mankind. If it did, and the majority of churchmen were saved and represented this desire, We would be evangelizing, sharing our goods, loving our neighbors, and this world would look a whole lot different, to the Glory of God.

Thanks Rick, for a vision of what could be. Let’s all dump all things that hinder us from that possibility. As it stands now, we are in need of a move of the Spirit, the resurrection power of Christ. As long as we hold to pride, self righteousness, hatred for the brethren, however, it will not take place.

You know, this would be nice if I thought for a minute you believed it. I’m sorry, I hate to ruin a great post and thread with such a off-color comment. But you show now indication whatsoever that you believe this or practice it.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

There would be no need for ADM’s, ODM’s or this blog, because the travesty we call Christianity today in America does not represent a living Christ walking in us, showing the power of the Holy Spirit horizontly to mankind. – Pastorboy

I find you reference to today’s Christinaity as travesty as offensive as it is naive.

If it did, and the majority of churchmen were saved and represented this desire – Pastoboy

I’d like you to show me a time, since the Edict of Milan, when the majority of churchmen have been saved.

We would be evangelizing, sharing our goods, loving our neighbors, and this world would look a whole lot different, to the Glory of God. – Pastorboy

I believe that if they did, but happened to be politically liberal, you’d castigate them nonetheless…

I think that’s the key. Good teachers know it’s not about them. They point to God, and not their doctrine. That’s why I can worship with people I disagree with. When we’re looking at the Son, our views on predestination, evolution, or the millennial reign don’t seem all that important.

Phil,

Thanks. You nailed it: It’s not about us.

jerry

ps–to all: i hope i didn’t come off the wrong way there. if i came across poorly to anyone, i too am sorry.

That’s why I can worship with people I disagree with.

And Phil brings it back to the OP…

SHOWOFF!

John Hughes, did you read the whole thing?

The ending comment from Boyd that you posted can only be understood in light of his rebuttals to Piper’s objections that make up the body of the article.

His rebuttals actually make sense…and require careful reading.

I don’t really have a dog in the hunt…I just think it’s interesting watching the evangelicals discover/do their own take on process theology.

I will note though, that like Nathanael said, I think that Boyd’s love for Christ just comes across in his teaching. I would also note that I can even sense this when I hear John Piper speak, even though I would disagree mightily with much of what he says.

I think that’s the key. Good teachers know it’s not about them. They point to God, and not their doctrine. That’s why I can worship with people I disagree with. When we’re looking at the Son, our views on predestination, evolution, or the millennial reign don’t seem all that important.

You congregation is blessed.

Shalom

In a sermon from a few months back, as he described his understanding of some of the workings out of “open theism,” it was crystal clear that he ascribes all of the honor and glory to God.
He spoke in such a way that I was forced to think about my own understanding of the sovereignty of God. He did not persuade me to be an open theist. But he did persuade me that he is passionate about the glory of God and how powerful and wise and sovereign this God is.
Being a puppet master (strong hyperbole intentially) and sitting back and watching your script unfold is a stark contrast to my understanding of Mr. Boyd’s view of God as a God who is powerful and wise and strong enough to rule and reign over a creation that is moving and making decisions and sinning and repenting and sinning again and killing each other and etc, etc, etc…

“Almost, thou persuadest me…”