Since the very beginning of this blog, we’ve been pretty firm in our “no comments are deleted” policy, with only a couple minor exceptions (with neither an attempt to silence/whitewash voices).  However, it’s becoming apparent that we need to add a little bit more to the way we’ve been managing this.

Some general observations/policies (for those unfamiliar) on this topic:

1) First-time commenters are automatically moderated until their first comment is approved.  We often run down IP addresses and match against some other sources to verify who someone is (or is not), and whether they’ve commented on this blog (or other blogs) before under different names/aliases.

2) For some people, relative anonymity is important (i.e. preventing people from tracking down personal/ID information and misusing it) and understandable.  As such, we do not demand full names.

3) “Moderation” (which puts comments into a queue for delayed approval) is used, rather sparingly for commenters who almost exclusively post items which:

* are consistently  nasty
* are consistently derogatory w/ little/no OP relevance
* ignore warnings on personal attacks against other commenters
* consistently ignore requests from CRN.Info writers

Ch-ch-ch-changes

With these in mind, we’re currently examining some changes in commenting policy (while keeping the “no comments are deleted” policy, as-is). Here are the proposed changes:

1) Commenters who wish to retain relative anonymity may continue to do so.  All that we ask is that you have a valid email address with your sign-in (which is only visible to CRN.Info writers) OR that you have the name of a CRN.Info writer who can verify your identity contained in the email field.  [example: We at least one commenter who is a single female and is concerned with her safety, and only one of our writers knows here and vouches for her as a commenter)]  If you have a regularly maintained blog that you’ve established, that’s good enough, as well.

2) We expect all regular commenters to maintain ONE name/alias by which they post (Example: We know who nc is, and he’s always nc).  If, for some reason (for instance, the overabundance of Chris’s and Nathan’s) you need to change in the future, just clear it with us so that we can keep track of you.

3) We expect that the ONE name/alias by which a commenter posts is not, in itself, purposely offensive or derrogatory toward another commenter/group/pastor/etc.

Comments/Commenters outside of these guidelines will be put in a moderation queue if, after a grace period, things aren’t rectified.

Personally, I hate doing stuff like this – particularly when it’s just a couple of folks currently at issue.  However, this seems to pop up every few months, so we might as well put it out for discussion and act upon it.

Thoughts? Additions?  Subtractions? Division/Multiplication?

Shalom

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35 Comments(+Add)

1   Phil Miller    http://pmwords.blogspot.com
March 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm

Me likee… it’s much better than the one you first described to me which went something like:

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;-)

2   pastorboy    http://www.thedowngrade2007.blogspot.com
March 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm

[example: We at least one commenter who is a single female and is concerned with her safety, and only one of our writers knows here and vouches for her as a commenter)] If you have a regularly maintained blog that you’ve established, that’s good enough, as well.

So which one of the above is Bo?

:)

3   Nathanael    http://www.borrowedbreath.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

It’s a shame it’s come to this.
But know, dear brother, that the effort you and the other moderators put into this website is bearing fruit.

Thanks for all you do.

4   Rick Frueh    http://http?//followingjudahslion.com
March 9th, 2009 at 2:01 pm

Chris – you are an inconsistant blog brute who relishes in your boorish authority. This is only the most recent revelation of your storm trooper mentality, emanating from your home church the “1st Church of the Wolfsschanze”.

Other than that you’re a stand up guy. :cool:

5   Rick Frueh    http://http?//followingjudahslion.com
March 9th, 2009 at 2:02 pm

Seriously – when you click on my name how come my blog doesn’t come up? How can I change that?

Signed,

A Confused Old Man

6   Phil Miller    http://pmwords.blogspot.com
March 9th, 2009 at 2:04 pm

Rick,
You have an error in the address – the http:// part is messed up. Double check your link.

7   Brett S    
March 9th, 2009 at 2:15 pm

Personally, I hate doing stuff like this – particularly when it’s just a couple of folks currently at issue. – Chris L

Chris L,

I don’t blame you for doing so; but it is sad that “Christians” need extra rules for public behavior.

“When you break the big laws, you do not get liberty; you do not even get anarchy. You get the small laws.” – GK Chesterton

8   nc    
March 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm

RE: Change #3

Does this mean we won’t be hearing from “Template” as “template” anymore?

So sad.

;)

9   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

Does this mean we won’t be hearing from “Template” as “template” anymore?

No – it just means his juvenile nastiness will sit in moderation longer.

We still won’t delete comments, but the more egregious the offense in the comment, the longer it will sit in moderation… (The few times he’s been coherent & on-topic, his comments were quickly moderated.)

10   Rick Frueh    http://http?//followingjudahslion.com
March 9th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

Phil – where do I go to change that? :)

11   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

Fixed.

12   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm

Fixed.

13   nc    
March 9th, 2009 at 3:07 pm

9:

Huh.

I just thought you would force him to go back to actually being “Chris P” instead of allowing passive-aggressive and immature “messages” in the names of commenters.

I mean…since the content of the comments already achieve that and all….

14   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 3:14 pm

I just thought you would force him to go back to actually being “Chris P” instead of allowing passive-aggressive and immature “messages” in the names of commenters.

Ah – Hadn’t thought of that.

Switching false names back to the “ONE” name sounds better.

Example: “Vida Blue” comments get switched back to “Pastorboy”; or (a few months ago) “ITodya So” comments get switched to “Iggy”, etc.

15   Nathanael    http://www.borrowedbreath.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 3:19 pm

And Rick’s get changed back to “Confused Old Man…What?…Fixed…Fixed”

16   Anonymous Erudtion (Rick Frueh)    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 3:22 pm

It’s about time you dealt with this.

17   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 3:26 pm

OK Anonymous, you will be put on moderation now, especially since you do not know how to spell.

18   pastorboy    http://www.pastorboy.wordpress.com
March 9th, 2009 at 3:29 pm

Vida Blue was a great pitcher for the Oakland A’s…now departed.

Why cant I have a dead pitcher (at school) if Bo can have a dead catcher?

It is at school when vida blue is on my computer….

19   Bo Diaz    
March 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

Chris L,
I emailed you a few days at the address listed on the about page of your personal site after you requested it.

20   nc    
March 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm

14:

yeah, i think it would help take things down a notch.

21   Jerry    http://www.dangoldfinch.wordpress.com
March 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm

i guess i’ll have to go back to being dangoldfinch and drop the pseudonym ‘jerry’.

22   iggy    http://wordofmouthministries.blogspot.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

OK… but you need to also moderate anyone who does not agree with me in all things. I really think that IS the answer… :wink:

igs

23   Neil    
March 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

Thanks Chris L.,

There is no room in the body of Christ for people to twist the name (pseudo or real) of a brother in Christ solely for the purpose of mockery.

24   iggy    http://wordofmouthministries.blogspot.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 4:40 pm

Neil,

There is no room in the body of Christ for people to twist the name (pseudo or real) of a brother in Christ solely for the purpose of mockery.

I agree! And no one can make a mockery of our own name than we can our self!

iggy

25   Christian P    http://www.churchvoices.com
March 9th, 2009 at 4:42 pm

All sounds good to me.

26   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

Thanks, Bo…

27   iggy    http://wordofmouthministries.blogspot.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 5:01 pm

Chris L,

It is I. Todyaso not I Todya So…

And I stopped using that here after you requested me to over a year ago…

iggy

28   iggy    http://wordofmouthministries.blogspot.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

I think also if you do know the person, such as in the case of Chris Pajak, you should change his name to his real name AND put his email, and web site address there.

I mean, he posted cowardly comments and then does not interact… so why not send people to him who might disagree and let him take responsibility for his words and actions?

(I am kidding a bit on this, but I think it would be fair to put his website link up to hold him to some accountability)

iggy

29   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
March 9th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

PB – We’ve got a line on Bo, so if he suddenly becomes Tom Seaver, he’ll get the same treatment as Vida Blue…

30   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
March 10th, 2009 at 10:26 am

The update removed the view of the recent comments and on my computer I cannot see the update.

31   Neil    
March 10th, 2009 at 10:39 am

Rick,

Are you talking about the Chicken Little update? Is it restored for you?

32   Rick Frueh    http://judahslion.blogspot.com/
March 10th, 2009 at 10:55 am

No. The update and comment section on the “ode” is still not visible, as well as the recent comments section. I have to go to the Missions to see the recent comments.

33   Neil    
March 10th, 2009 at 10:58 am

Everything looks normal to me. Maybe closing your browser and flushing the cache may help.

Is anyone else out there having (viewing) problems since I updated the post?

34   Julie    http://www.loneprairie.net
March 10th, 2009 at 11:36 pm

Please publish this comment.

35   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
March 10th, 2009 at 11:43 pm

Hi Julie :)