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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/05/01/where-did-this-come-from/comment-page-2/#comment-95240</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 13:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, she&#039;s not Miss USA, she lost - which must really frustrate whoever actually won... do you suppose Ingrid will supply us with a link to those photos?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, she&#8217;s not Miss USA, she lost &#8211; which must really frustrate whoever actually won&#8230; do you suppose Ingrid will supply us with a link to those photos?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/05/01/where-did-this-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-95230</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 11:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Topless photos of Miss USA have surfaced. Here comes the avalanche of Look! Look! I told you so posts.

Immodesty is at odds with Biblical truths. Setting up Miss USA as spiritual leader is absurd, but picking her bones clean is equally absurd. Proving this woman has compromised her faith is no big feat. 

In words of President Shepherd:

&quot;We&#039;ve got serious problems, and we need serious men...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topless photos of Miss USA have surfaced. Here comes the avalanche of Look! Look! I told you so posts.</p>
<p>Immodesty is at odds with Biblical truths. Setting up Miss USA as spiritual leader is absurd, but picking her bones clean is equally absurd. Proving this woman has compromised her faith is no big feat. </p>
<p>In words of President Shepherd:</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve got serious problems, and we need serious men&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/05/01/where-did-this-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-95164</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point, Alice. A woman&#039;s augmentation must be Biblically &quot;marked&quot; since it cuases divisions.

Rom.16:17 - Now I beseech you, brethren, mark &lt;strong&gt;them&lt;/strong&gt; which cause divisions...

(That is a close as I get to being naughty!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, Alice. A woman&#8217;s augmentation must be Biblically &#8220;marked&#8221; since it cuases divisions.</p>
<p>Rom.16:17 &#8211; Now I beseech you, brethren, mark <strong>them</strong> which cause divisions&#8230;</p>
<p>(That is a close as I get to being naughty!)</p>
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		<title>By: alice</title>
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		<dc:creator>alice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, it doesn&#039;t really look like the swimsuit thing is the issue at all. It&#039;s more like, bloggers who used to be friends have fallen out--now they drop each other from their blog roles, publicly vilify each other, and try to get their readers to hate those who used to be their friends (and are still their brothers/sisters in Christ). 

It&#039;s sad and pathetic. And kind of shocking actually, (though as Rick F. once said to me, &quot;Are you new here?&quot; :-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, it doesn&#8217;t really look like the swimsuit thing is the issue at all. It&#8217;s more like, bloggers who used to be friends have fallen out&#8211;now they drop each other from their blog roles, publicly vilify each other, and try to get their readers to hate those who used to be their friends (and are still their brothers/sisters in Christ). </p>
<p>It&#8217;s sad and pathetic. And kind of shocking actually, (though as Rick F. once said to me, &#8220;Are you new here?&#8221; <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/05/01/where-did-this-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-95161</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 18:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;What’s the over/under on more posts about bikinis?”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/culture-war/two-notes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another one.&lt;/a&gt;

Focus on the family bites the dust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>What’s the over/under on more posts about bikinis?”</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/culture-war/two-notes" rel="nofollow">Another one.</a></p>
<p>Focus on the family bites the dust.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/05/01/where-did-this-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-95151</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One clandestine issue is this:

We will only accept your agreement with us on issues if we approve of everything else on your theological inventory. Agreement from flawed believers will be summarily rejected with extreme prejudice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One clandestine issue is this:</p>
<p>We will only accept your agreement with us on issues if we approve of everything else on your theological inventory. Agreement from flawed believers will be summarily rejected with extreme prejudice.</p>
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		<title>By: nc</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/05/01/where-did-this-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-95150</link>
		<dc:creator>nc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 14:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the video. 
These woman aren&#039;t really dancing...I mean that woman made it sound like they were doing a pole dance and grinding everywhere. 

By the rhetoric I thought something different had happened than what usually happens at those things.

Once again, Ingrid gets caught up in her Victorian craziness.

The real issue at these things is NOT the swimsuit competition. Those are only a symptom of the deeper problem: &lt;i&gt;The whole idea of pageants in the first place&lt;/i&gt;. 

The whole thing is predicated on valuing the wrong thing: externals. 

Given that, people are shocked and offended at the idea of a swimsuit segment? 

It just goes to show how the real issue &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; power and resentment:

The resentment that one group of &quot;external obsessed people&quot; can&#039;t determine what set of externals another set of external obsessed people choose to obsess over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the video.<br />
These woman aren&#8217;t really dancing&#8230;I mean that woman made it sound like they were doing a pole dance and grinding everywhere. </p>
<p>By the rhetoric I thought something different had happened than what usually happens at those things.</p>
<p>Once again, Ingrid gets caught up in her Victorian craziness.</p>
<p>The real issue at these things is NOT the swimsuit competition. Those are only a symptom of the deeper problem: <i>The whole idea of pageants in the first place</i>. </p>
<p>The whole thing is predicated on valuing the wrong thing: externals. </p>
<p>Given that, people are shocked and offended at the idea of a swimsuit segment? </p>
<p>It just goes to show how the real issue <i>is</i> power and resentment:</p>
<p>The resentment that one group of &#8220;external obsessed people&#8221; can&#8217;t determine what set of externals another set of external obsessed people choose to obsess over.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/05/01/where-did-this-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-95148</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From one of Jerry&#039;s posts:

&lt;blockquote&gt;A potential pandemic flu virus is sweeping across North America…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘Christian’ ‘right’.

There is ongoing violence and war in Darfur…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.

Two Coptic Christians in Egypt were shot dead over Easter…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.

An earthquake killed 150 people in Italy…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right.’

War continues in Afghanistan and may be spreading to Africa…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.

A gunman went wild killing 14 people in New York…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.

A human rights activist is missing in China, likely being held for torture…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.

Over 87,000 Iraqi’s have been killed in violence since 2005…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.

75 in Iraq were killed in homicide bombings…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But there are at least EIGHT posts at SoL on the Miss USA &quot;controversy&quot;. The &quot;hardly a whimper&quot; principle takes on new meanings. A woman dresses immodestly on American television and Ingrid is obsessed and incensed, but during this &quot;debate&quot; thousands have died all over the world, not to mention the spiritual need of sinners.

Hardly a whimper indeed. (What&#039;s the over/under on more posts about bikinis?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From one of Jerry&#8217;s posts:</p>
<blockquote><p>A potential pandemic flu virus is sweeping across North America…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘Christian’ ‘right’.</p>
<p>There is ongoing violence and war in Darfur…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.</p>
<p>Two Coptic Christians in Egypt were shot dead over Easter…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.</p>
<p>An earthquake killed 150 people in Italy…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right.’</p>
<p>War continues in Afghanistan and may be spreading to Africa…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.</p>
<p>A gunman went wild killing 14 people in New York…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.</p>
<p>A human rights activist is missing in China, likely being held for torture…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.</p>
<p>Over 87,000 Iraqi’s have been killed in violence since 2005…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.</p>
<p>75 in Iraq were killed in homicide bombings…and there’s hardly a whimper from the ‘christian’ ‘right’.</p></blockquote>
<p>But there are at least EIGHT posts at SoL on the Miss USA &#8220;controversy&#8221;. The &#8220;hardly a whimper&#8221; principle takes on new meanings. A woman dresses immodestly on American television and Ingrid is obsessed and incensed, but during this &#8220;debate&#8221; thousands have died all over the world, not to mention the spiritual need of sinners.</p>
<p>Hardly a whimper indeed. (What&#8217;s the over/under on more posts about bikinis?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2009/05/01/where-did-this-come-from/comment-page-1/#comment-95147</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proctor, once an approved site, has now been relegated to &quot;Christian male&quot; status along with Camp and others. Ingrid writes, 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;You, a supposedly Christian male, defend its undoing and mock the godly women who try to speak out on this.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Everyone is now a &quot;supposedly&quot; Christian &quot;male&quot;. There once was a woman named Athaliah who destoyed all the males (she thought) so she could be &lt;strike&gt;king&lt;/strike&gt; queen. You know you are bankrupt when such an issue becomes your obsession.

It is wrong for a Christian woman to appear in a skimpy bathing suit on television.

Move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proctor, once an approved site, has now been relegated to &#8220;Christian male&#8221; status along with Camp and others. Ingrid writes, </p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;You, a supposedly Christian male, defend its undoing and mock the godly women who try to speak out on this.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Everyone is now a &#8220;supposedly&#8221; Christian &#8220;male&#8221;. There once was a woman named Athaliah who destoyed all the males (she thought) so she could be <strike>king</strike> queen. You know you are bankrupt when such an issue becomes your obsession.</p>
<p>It is wrong for a Christian woman to appear in a skimpy bathing suit on television.</p>
<p>Move on.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 13:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/uncategorized/sissified-compromised-men-in-the-church-hurt-women&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;look&lt;/a&gt;, the catfight continues!!

Is there such a things a &quot;modest verbiage&quot;??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And <a href="http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/uncategorized/sissified-compromised-men-in-the-church-hurt-women" rel="nofollow">look</a>, the catfight continues!!</p>
<p>Is there such a things a &#8220;modest verbiage&#8221;??</p>
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