Then the marine is handcuffed and put in jail for assault while the gang-member who shot him set free and goes to the paper and complains about being a victim.

Or this one

A innocent women is mugged and her purse is stolen. The mugger just did not like how she was dressed and wanted to support their lifestyle. A cabdriver witnesses it all and chases down the mugger and pins him to a wall with his cab bumper. The police come… arrest the cab driver and the lady for she was an accomplice… and then the mugger starts a campaign against the cab driver and lady with his lawyers to sue them and have them jailed for their crimes.

It is like a wife beater whose wife after years of abuse finally gets a good hit in on her husband and he then has her arrested for spousal abuse.

I see it more like that than “gang-rape”… unless it is that the so called “rape victim” was a porn star whore and she paid all the men to have their way with her and then she decided she was a victim… so them sued them for rape.

The point is that Ingrid states she is a victim, yet does not take the responsibility for her own actions as she viciously attacks other ministries, their churches, their families… she does not understand the harm she does and then humorously cries as if she is the victim.

iggy

Is a thread gang rape considered worse than a one on one rape since it represents a quantitative difference?

Also, is it always man toward woman or can it be the reverse?

At what point does it leave confrontation and become an actual rape?

After a thread gang rape, is counseling necessary?

Have some self control and take responsibility for your own actions…

Thurstin Says:
May 8th, 2009 at 9:23 am

#154
I hope to never hear that any have, nor see any. The ones that they have now supposedly are nude, but from the back. Still inappropriate.

You all have to understand. I am a 27 year old college male recently saved. Lust was a struggle for me. When some Christians say that nudity, pornography, etc. is okay, it confuses me. Didn’t Paul tell Timothy Flee Youthful lusts? Doesn’t James remind us to flee from temptation? Why would a Christian woman pose like that? So that her weaker brothers could stumble, and glorify her?

Thurstin, I understand your point however I was not personally troubled by her pictures but I am admittedly older and from the beach areas of Southern California and the culture there is a bit different. But I think fairness dictates that not only did she say these pics were taken when she was 4 years younger but she said also that they were to be used in a lingerie catalog. Typically these catalogs are not marketed to single men and we have to take on the responsibility for what we choose to see or watch.

I did look at the ONE picture that exists of her “nudity”…………it is not anything like a “come hither” type of pose, no “bedroom eyes” but rather a cute smile on the “girl-next-door.” It seemed to be clearly for commercial use. Again, just not offensive to me…..and I would likely not have seen it had it been used in the manner she claimed it had been taken since I don’t “read” many catologs marketed to women for women’s underwear. (And I wonder why these other “nude photos” haven’t been shown……if they really exist?)

It’s nothing more than gossip “journalism”.

Sandman: thanks for your well though out comment. The physician analogy was a good one. Sort of reminds me of that funny quote from Howard Dean after the Janet Jackson SuperBowl costume malfunction. He was running for president at the time, and the press wanted his reaction to the incident. He shrugged and said, “I’m a doctor, it was a nipple, I see them all day”
Maybe a little too blasé, but funny none the less. (And no, I’m no fan of Howard Dean. I’m a fairly conservative Republican).

PaulC: “Pick any sin…” Yikes! Is that what it all comes down to? I guess it never occured to me to put beach wear in the “sin column”.
How do you waterski in a Burqua, or don’t Christians enjoy water sports.

Perspective and Proportion.

Call me, I will explain it. It has something to do with mixing testosterone with the curse.

One other thought…I don’t get the girls in bathing suits causing men to stumble thing.

Pick any sin and there will be another person unaffected by it. “I don’t get why _____ causes people to stumble. In my view there’s nothing to it.”

See what I’m saying?