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	<title>Comments on: Scripture for the Day (with something to offend everyone)</title>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry - 
I&#039;d have to ask my Christian history prof.   He said that while we were discussing Origen.   SoS was preached from very heavily.

You are right that it may be different from how Driscoll is preaching it.   SoS was seen then (and by many today) as allegorical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry &#8211;<br />
I&#8217;d have to ask my Christian history prof.   He said that while we were discussing Origen.   SoS was preached from very heavily.</p>
<p>You are right that it may be different from how Driscoll is preaching it.   SoS was seen then (and by many today) as allegorical.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so edified by a Scriptural, Arminian message that exhibits passion for the lost and an open proclamation that &quot;Jesus came to save everybody&quot;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=11801&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Like this one.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so edified by a Scriptural, Arminian message that exhibits passion for the lost and an open proclamation that &#8220;Jesus came to save everybody&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://christianresearchnetwork.com/?p=11801" rel="nofollow">Like this one.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick Frueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Frueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure what &quot;writing off&quot; means and no one can know for sure if God ordains someone. We can ackowledge the ordination of any man here on earth and must recognize that.

But I must admit a fleshly exhilaration concerning Driscoll and his ministry. He walks like an Arminian, talks like an Arminian, preaches like an Arminian, and even looks like an Arminain, all while professing to be a Calvinist. And all this to the consternation to most Calvinists!

When a Cal-sheep wanders off the prescribed pasture and has others follow him, I get a voyeuristic pleasure in watching the Calhedrin writhe in theological pain and anguish. I know it is sin, but I seem to be addicted to it, and I cannot summon the desire to stop.

:cool:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure what &#8220;writing off&#8221; means and no one can know for sure if God ordains someone. We can ackowledge the ordination of any man here on earth and must recognize that.</p>
<p>But I must admit a fleshly exhilaration concerning Driscoll and his ministry. He walks like an Arminian, talks like an Arminian, preaches like an Arminian, and even looks like an Arminain, all while professing to be a Calvinist. And all this to the consternation to most Calvinists!</p>
<p>When a Cal-sheep wanders off the prescribed pasture and has others follow him, I get a voyeuristic pleasure in watching the Calhedrin writhe in theological pain and anguish. I know it is sin, but I seem to be addicted to it, and I cannot summon the desire to stop.</p>
<p> <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt=':cool:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is this sight defending Driscoll? You do know he believes in that nasty penal substitutionary atonement, as well as election and predestination right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not defending Driscoll &lt;em&gt;per se&lt;/em&gt;. What I&#039;m defending is a preacher--who, despite my misgivings with his theology, is a preacher ordained of Christ to proclaim the Gospel. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Nobody ever said it was nasty nor that it wasn’t accurate. It just isn’t the full picture.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yep. 

And, to be sure, this post isn&#039;t about the atonement. It&#039;s about what words preachers are allowed to use from the pulpit using Ezekiel 23 as a litmus test. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;SoS was the most preached from book in the early church. It is a to our detriment that we have gotten away from it.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m curious about this statement. I perhaps agree with the latter part, but the former part intrigues me. So, without detracting from the point of the post, could you direct us to some concrete evidence to support this? 

To be sure, I seriously doubt that the early fathers you may be referencing preached SoS in any way close to the way Driscoll preaches it. :) And, in fact, would likely be appalled at his interpretation of the book--as I am.

Still, there is a big difference at being appalled at a particular series of sermons and writing off someone/someone&#039;s ministry because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is this sight defending Driscoll? You do know he believes in that nasty penal substitutionary atonement, as well as election and predestination right?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending Driscoll <em>per se</em>. What I&#8217;m defending is a preacher&#8211;who, despite my misgivings with his theology, is a preacher ordained of Christ to proclaim the Gospel. </p>
<blockquote><p>Nobody ever said it was nasty nor that it wasn’t accurate. It just isn’t the full picture.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yep. </p>
<p>And, to be sure, this post isn&#8217;t about the atonement. It&#8217;s about what words preachers are allowed to use from the pulpit using Ezekiel 23 as a litmus test. </p>
<blockquote><p>SoS was the most preached from book in the early church. It is a to our detriment that we have gotten away from it.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m curious about this statement. I perhaps agree with the latter part, but the former part intrigues me. So, without detracting from the point of the post, could you direct us to some concrete evidence to support this? </p>
<p>To be sure, I seriously doubt that the early fathers you may be referencing preached SoS in any way close to the way Driscoll preaches it. <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And, in fact, would likely be appalled at his interpretation of the book&#8211;as I am.</p>
<p>Still, there is a big difference at being appalled at a particular series of sermons and writing off someone/someone&#8217;s ministry because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You do know he believes in that nasty penal substitutionary atonement, as well as election and predestination right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nobody ever said it was nasty nor that it wasn&#039;t accurate.  It just isn&#039;t the full picture.  I&#039;m still not certain why the atonement becomes the litmus test?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You do know he believes in that nasty penal substitutionary atonement, as well as election and predestination right?</p></blockquote>
<p>Nobody ever said it was nasty nor that it wasn&#8217;t accurate.  It just isn&#8217;t the full picture.  I&#8217;m still not certain why the atonement becomes the litmus test?</p>
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		<title>By: Chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda,

SoS was the most preached from book in the early church.  It is a to our detriment that we have gotten away from it.

With that said, I can&#039;t stand Driscoll.  He&#039;s everything I think a pastor should not be and I disagree with him on just about everything.   

But SoS?  cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda,</p>
<p>SoS was the most preached from book in the early church.  It is a to our detriment that we have gotten away from it.</p>
<p>With that said, I can&#8217;t stand Driscoll.  He&#8217;s everything I think a pastor should not be and I disagree with him on just about everything.   </p>
<p>But SoS?  cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T Boo,
Looks like you proved something. This site isn&#039;t all that much like those other sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T Boo,<br />
Looks like you proved something. This site isn&#8217;t all that much like those other sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why is this sight defending Driscoll? You do know he believes in that nasty penal substitutionary atonement, as well as election and predestination right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Probably because, unlike the ODM sites, we don&#039;t feel the need to falsely malign or accuse those who we disagree with.

As I&#039;ve already noted, I do disagree with Driscoll on a good many things, but I don&#039;t think that he&#039;s not a Christian or that he deserves to be lied about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why is this sight defending Driscoll? You do know he believes in that nasty penal substitutionary atonement, as well as election and predestination right?</p></blockquote>
<p>Probably because, unlike the ODM sites, we don&#8217;t feel the need to falsely malign or accuse those who we disagree with.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve already noted, I do disagree with Driscoll on a good many things, but I don&#8217;t think that he&#8217;s not a Christian or that he deserves to be lied about.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Booher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Booher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoops, that should read &#039;site&#039; not &#039;sight&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops, that should read &#8217;site&#8217; not &#8217;sight&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Booher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Booher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this sight defending Driscoll?  You do know he believes in that nasty penal substitutionary atonement, as well as election and predestination right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this sight defending Driscoll?  You do know he believes in that nasty penal substitutionary atonement, as well as election and predestination right?</p>
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