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		<title>By: robbo</title>
		<link>http://prophets-priests-poets.info/2010/02/05/open-thread-friday-3/comment-page-4/#comment-113053</link>
		<dc:creator>robbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 01:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Who are you in communion with? The Bishop of Nigeria?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL. I don&#039;t know if you meant that to be funny, MG, but it brought a smile to my face.  It is good to see my West African cousins in Nigeria being recognized for stuff other than email probably originating in Indiana and claiming to be sent from Lagos ;)

By the way, from Wikipedia, the Anglican Church in Nigeria had 122 Bishops as at May 2007, so you have to be more specific with your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Who are you in communion with? The Bishop of Nigeria?</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL. I don&#8217;t know if you meant that to be funny, MG, but it brought a smile to my face.  It is good to see my West African cousins in Nigeria being recognized for stuff other than email probably originating in Indiana and claiming to be sent from Lagos <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>By the way, from Wikipedia, the Anglican Church in Nigeria had 122 Bishops as at May 2007, so you have to be more specific with your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>183,

CANA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>183,</p>
<p>CANA</p>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ummm, i understand your point Jerry, i was only trying to point out that the terms Anglican and Episcopal really don&#039;t get us anywhere until there is a communion wide solution. 

I&#039;ve been involved in the church for a long time. 

It&#039;s true there is contentiousness, and the lawsuits are unfortunate...

that being said, dioceses are within their rights to retain the property that is theirs...something parishes knew when they chose their course of action. 

That being said, i think that dioceses should allow parishes to leave and waive their rights...

because the attitude behind the lawsuits is punitive and meanspirited. 

OR, in the case of Virginia bishop Lee, he was forced into lawsuits after he had set up a process for parishes to leave with their property...

it&#039;s a real mess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ummm, i understand your point Jerry, i was only trying to point out that the terms Anglican and Episcopal really don&#8217;t get us anywhere until there is a communion wide solution. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been involved in the church for a long time. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s true there is contentiousness, and the lawsuits are unfortunate&#8230;</p>
<p>that being said, dioceses are within their rights to retain the property that is theirs&#8230;something parishes knew when they chose their course of action. </p>
<p>That being said, i think that dioceses should allow parishes to leave and waive their rights&#8230;</p>
<p>because the attitude behind the lawsuits is punitive and meanspirited. </p>
<p>OR, in the case of Virginia bishop Lee, he was forced into lawsuits after he had set up a process for parishes to leave with their property&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a real mess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry,

It is true that Chad leveraged the lack of response to his dad&#039;s heart attack to take a swipe at us... that said, your comment hurt him.

Thanks for the apology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>It is true that Chad leveraged the lack of response to his dad&#8217;s heart attack to take a swipe at us&#8230; that said, your comment hurt him.</p>
<p>Thanks for the apology.</p>
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		<title>By: M.G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re:181

Disassociation is a tricky issue, especially when property is concerned.  It&#039;s a shame things ever come to lawsuits.  

Who are you in communion with?  The Bishop of Nigeria?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:181</p>
<p>Disassociation is a tricky issue, especially when property is concerned.  It&#8217;s a shame things ever come to lawsuits.  </p>
<p>Who are you in communion with?  The Bishop of Nigeria?</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil, 

I didn&#039;t make a comment about &#039;Chad&#039;s dad&#039;s heart attack.&#039; I made a comment about his snide remark about our &#039;great Christian community&#039; in #148. 

I should have shortened my blockquote so as to avoid the confusion. I am sorry for any trouble that I may have caused in that regard. 

jerry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neil, </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t make a comment about &#8216;Chad&#8217;s dad&#8217;s heart attack.&#8217; I made a comment about his snide remark about our &#8216;great Christian community&#8217; in #148. </p>
<p>I should have shortened my blockquote so as to avoid the confusion. I am sorry for any trouble that I may have caused in that regard. </p>
<p>jerry</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, the Episcopal church is part of the Anglican communion.

This may well be true. But the congregation I have affiliated with has nothing to do with the Episcopal church as Rev Holtz stated. In fact, our congregation is one of many congregations that have disaffiliated with that stream of the communion and are currently involved in a contentious battle over property. 

In this sense, we are not at all a part of the Episcopal church and they are not a part of &#039;us&#039; unless being sued is a new way of belonging to one another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, the Episcopal church is part of the Anglican communion.</p>
<p>This may well be true. But the congregation I have affiliated with has nothing to do with the Episcopal church as Rev Holtz stated. In fact, our congregation is one of many congregations that have disaffiliated with that stream of the communion and are currently involved in a contentious battle over property. </p>
<p>In this sense, we are not at all a part of the Episcopal church and they are not a part of &#8216;us&#8217; unless being sued is a new way of belonging to one another.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess one way to look at the question of the value of following Christ now compared to the reward in the future is through the lens of the conservative/liberal split.  When fundamentalism took root in the US, it really did tend to make the decision to follow Christ one of &quot;fire insurance&quot;.  It almost boiled down Christianity to little more than a form of gnosticism.  I guess it would be kind of fair that they elevated Jesus&#039; divinity over His humanity.

However, on the liberal side of that split, you have people who more or less denied Christ was divine.  He was little more than a wise rabbi who told us how to live.  So they emphasized His humanity while either downplaying or outright denying His divinity.

I guess the key is to live in truth of both - Jesus was completely God and completely man.  This whole hypostatic union thing has been tripping people up almost from the get-go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess one way to look at the question of the value of following Christ now compared to the reward in the future is through the lens of the conservative/liberal split.  When fundamentalism took root in the US, it really did tend to make the decision to follow Christ one of &#8220;fire insurance&#8221;.  It almost boiled down Christianity to little more than a form of gnosticism.  I guess it would be kind of fair that they elevated Jesus&#8217; divinity over His humanity.</p>
<p>However, on the liberal side of that split, you have people who more or less denied Christ was divine.  He was little more than a wise rabbi who told us how to live.  So they emphasized His humanity while either downplaying or outright denying His divinity.</p>
<p>I guess the key is to live in truth of both &#8211; Jesus was completely God and completely man.  This whole hypostatic union thing has been tripping people up almost from the get-go.</p>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys need to cool it and forgive each other...

just say&#039;n...

love to all!!! 

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys need to cool it and forgive each other&#8230;</p>
<p>just say&#8217;n&#8230;</p>
<p>love to all!!! </p>
<p> <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, the Episcopal church is part of the Anglican communion.

For how long, i know not...but the differentiation of Anglican from Episcopal in the N.A. context is part of the contentiousness going on in the communion itself. 

just say&#039;n....

love to all!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, the Episcopal church is part of the Anglican communion.</p>
<p>For how long, i know not&#8230;but the differentiation of Anglican from Episcopal in the N.A. context is part of the contentiousness going on in the communion itself. </p>
<p>just say&#8217;n&#8230;.</p>
<p>love to all!  <img src='http://prophets-priests-poets.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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