When I read how Rick Warren was misrepresented in the press I wondered how our old friends would react. I was not too surprised to see one of them twist the story (much like the original reporter did) into yet another opportunity to attack a brother.

On his blog, Wittenburg Church Door, Pastorboy takes Warren to task – again. What I found interesting was the headline – Rick Warren Retracts ‘Chrislam’ Statements made to OC Register.

I read several clarifications written by Rick Warren and none of them can be called a retraction. A retraction is a public statement, by the author of an earlier statement, that withdraws the original statement. This is not what Warren did. Warren did not say anything that needed to be withdrawn… and I believe Pastorboy knows this full well. Yet he posts a blog that implies that Warren promoted a synergism between Christianity and Islam.

In the blog post that precedes the one linked to above, Pastorboy makes blatantly false comments and accusations against Rick Warren, a brother in Christ. This shameful, it is deceptive and dishonest, but it is not unexpected.

The original article that began the controversy was wrong – either accidentally or otherwise. The same can be said of Pastorboy.

    UPDATE – May, 2012

In checking the links above I see the articles in question have been removed. It would have been better if Pastorboy posted an admission of the error and false treatments about a brother in Christ – but even his removing the false accusations and twisted gossip is better than I expected.

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1   pastorboy    http://www.riveroflifealliance.com
April 22nd, 2012 at 2:17 am

What is truly wrong is that this brother in Christ- do we really know?- falsely attacked a non-believer who is a reporter and who wrote an article based upon research, recorded interviews, and documents that he has in his possession. If in fact they were false statements, then Rick Warren should take this person to court for libel to clear his name but more importantly clarifies his position to the rest of the world. As it is, he did retract the statements attributed to him by the reporter.

It is well established by his signing of the statement of peace between Islam and Christianity and his several public statements that can be interpreted that we do share the same God. I hope he believes that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the God of the Bible, and that his SOn Jesus is not the Isa of the Quran.

2   Neil    
April 22nd, 2012 at 5:11 pm

Warren interview posted by Ed Stezter

pb, the linked blog post above will tell you everything you need to know.

in it warren clearly denies he believes christians and muslims worship the same god.

in it he clearly affirms his faith (as if that was even remotely questioned by anyone without a nefarious agenda).

in it he clearly states that muslims need to be evangelized.

he made no retractions as you claim, he only made corrections.

so an honest blogger would acknowledge the errors and rumors and gossip – recant – and ask for forgiveness from the one he falsely accused.

i find it sad that you cling to this with such lame tenacity… do you really think warren’s lack of a lawsuit is an argument for his guilt? is that what jesus said ” and they will know you are believers by your lawsuits”?

no – what is wrong is your willingness to attack a bonafide brother in the lord… and doing it by using such transparent falsehoods is to be confronted (and pitied). I truly pity you the hardness of your heart.

[sarcasm] all that being said, i understand that you oppose warren… after all, he praised those who enter into relationships with muslims, who study the bible with them, who [GASP] call them friend… when, and as we all know, what he should be doing is avoid getting to know them… he should be standing on a street-corner telling them they are all going to hell.

that is true love. [/sarcasm]

3   Neil    
April 22nd, 2012 at 5:30 pm

it had been quite a while since visited wittenburg church door but a couple things reminded me of the odms.

1) i was reading a book and came upon the statement that said – you cannot claim to love someone if your actions make it look like you do not even like them.
2) i was worshiping with a group in arabic and one of the songs used the name isa.

so i thought i’d see if pastorboy had taken the inaccuracies of the secular media and used them as fodder. i was not surprised he had. i was, however, surprised by the blatant falsehoods he passes off as reality.

4   Chris L    http://www.fishingtheabyss.com/
April 23rd, 2012 at 11:49 am

Excellent job, Neil!

5   Brendt    http://csaproductions.com/blog/
April 24th, 2012 at 12:40 am

PB (#1):

If in fact they were false statements, then Rick Warren should take this person to court for libel …

By this shall all men know that you are My disciples, that you sue their asses.

6   Neil    
April 24th, 2012 at 3:38 pm

if you do not sue,
it must be true!

brendt, i gotta lick out of that one as well… particularly coming from someone who thinks the media misrepresents him. i wonder how many times he’s sued the media?

7   pastorboy    http://www.riveroflifealliance.com
April 27th, 2012 at 4:40 am

Ed Stetzer? Are you kidding me? These comments were not confirmed, researched, etc. We do not know what is true here and the attack of this reporter’s words are NOT Christian behavior at all.

As I write this in Italy, I have seen the result of Warren’s strategies- The churches here are museums, full of beautiful human art, but very humanistic in scope. Now there are few worshippers, and many more admirers of art than worshippers of God.

8   Neil    
April 29th, 2012 at 6:31 pm

pboy… so, you don’t like ed stetzer either? why am not surprised?

i love the logic – first warren is guilty b/c he does not sue… then he’s guilty b/c he attacks the reporter – even though you offer no evidence or examples of an attack.

yet, even though you offer no examples of your accusations, when confronted with overwhelming evidence against your false statements, you deflect it… the comments need no confirmation, they come from warren himself and they answer every one of your concerns.

he denies that christians worship the same god.

he makes a statement of faith you would acknowledge if it were from anyone else.

of course we’ve seen this before, when faced with overwhelming evidence you just deny it exists.

when faced with clear statements from warren himself – you deny he really means it.

…then you dodge and weave – like blaming empty cathedrals of europe on rick warren. apparently you have never heard of the enlightenment.

though i am pleased you acknowledge the artwork is beautiful – for god is the author of artistic beauty, and in it the artists often reflect the glory of god.

9   Neil    
April 30th, 2012 at 10:49 am

for the record, here is a link to the original interview, it is a primary source that provides all the answers anyone would need – from the proverbial horses mouth – Rick Warren: ‘Flat Out Wrong’ That Muslims, Christians View God the Same

i would hope this would settle any issue… but i am sure it will not. since those who hate warren will never be satisfied no matter how biblical and honest he is.

10   Brendt Wayne Waters    http://csaproductions.com/blog/
April 30th, 2012 at 12:18 pm

One thing I have desired of the Lord,
That will I seek:
That I may see the look
On John Chisham’s face
The first time he encounters Rick Warren in heaven.

11   Neil    
May 1st, 2012 at 2:56 pm

if you do not sue,
it must be true!

12   Neil    
May 1st, 2012 at 2:58 pm

…but seriously, the warren interview would put this all to rest, but it won’t.

if the whole “isa” thing taught me anything, it is that haters will hate even when all objections have been removed.