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This quote was posted at CRN from Kay Warren

By her own admission, Kay Warren says, five years ago she didn’t know anything about AIDS. Then she saw a magazine article about how the disease had left 12 million orphans in Africa.

‘I didn’t care about AIDS in Africa. I thought it was a gay man’s disease, so in the theology I had at the time, I didn’t have to care. I didn’t know anyone who had AIDS. I had a heart that was very hard, apathetic and very wrong,’ said Warren

CRN responds with this one line

Well, she must have learned that rotten and unscriptural “theology” from her her husband because they sure didn’t get it from the BIble.

Very revealing of their theology at CRN. It is considered “rotten and unscriptural” to actually care about those who have AIDS. I mean, isn’t that all Kay mentions here? Before she used to think AIDS was a “gay man’s disease” and so she didn’t have to care about these people. But, now that she actually cares for the broken, the widowed, the sick, the hungry and the naked, her theology is rotten. These people have obviously become more enamored with their fights against Warren than understanding biblical truths. Simply amazing.

**UPDATE**

Upon re-reading the article, I realized that I probably did get the message mixed up.  I apologize for any harm done.  I am still confused though.  Rick Warren has not changed his theology in the last 5 years.  Why would he then be responsible for his wife’s theology 5 years ago, but not be now?  You can’t say he was responsible for the bad, but is not now responsible for the good.

So, I guess the editor is implying that Rick Warren’s theology has now changed for the better?  I’ll take that.

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It seems as if CRN will never tire of re-hashing the same old tired arguments concerning Rob Bell. The Editor claims this piece demonstrates the “propensity of Rob Bell of the emerging church to over-emphasize the humanity of Christ Jesus of Nazareth and turn our Creator into a first century rabbi.”

So does Rob Bell over-emphasize the humanity of Jesus? It seems like a very odd claim to me. After all Jesus was both fully God and fully man. There of course is much of this union that will always be a mystery to us. However to claim that Jesus didn’t learn, wasn’t at all affected by the culture He grew up, and somehow wasn’t quite all human seems to go against many of the details we’re given in the Gospels.

First, we aren’t given a lot of details about Jesus’ childhood and adolescent years. Luke 2:52 says, “Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men.” This is the sum of the information we’re given about Jesus’ life between the ages of 12 and 30. Interestingly enough, this is the exact phrase used in 1 Samuel 2:26 to describe Samuel’s development while he served in the temple. It seems that Luke was trying to tell us something about Jesus’ education. It seems very likely that Jesus would have studied using the same methods as other Jewish children at the time.

The fact that Jesus was viewed as an average Jewish man prior to the beginning of His ministry is emphasized later in Luke 4. Jesus is at the synagogue in His hometown of Nazareth, and is asked to read (a very common practice for a Jewish man at sysnagogue), and He reads from Isaiah 61. After reading, we are told Jesus

“rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the attendant and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fastened on him, and he began by saying to them, ‘Today this scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.’ “

This outraged the people from His hometown. “Isn’t this Joseph’s son?” they asked. It seems to me that they had no reason to suspect Jesus was anything but a common working man prior to this.

So, even from this brief look at Scripture, we get a picture of Jesus that paints Him as fully human. This in no way denies He was fully divine, but it does enforce that Jesus was a real person in history, in Israel, and entrenched in Jewish society at the time. Jesus wasn’t born with all Scriptures in His head. He worked to memorize them. He studied, and he humbled himself to learn from other people.

When we think of how much God humbled himself to live on this planet, it is truly amazing. So let’s not fall prey to an old heresy that Jesus only looked human. Let’s embrace the mystery of the Incarnation in it’s full beauty.

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Looks like the story is all in what we choose to report.  So, which is the truth, ODMs?   Is Driscoll the raving heretic or the reforming pastor?

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In high school, my youth group participated in a 30 hour famine.  We raised money by having people pledge an amount for every hour that we went without food.  During the 30 hours, we prayed, learned about children in 3rd world countries that go without food, and had an overnighter at the youth facilities.  We raised over $3,000 to feed teenagers that were starving in Kenya.  It was my first experience with fasting, and literally changed my outlook on spiritual disciplines.  However, I was floored by this article.

The editor at CRN and Bob DeWaay would call this practice “look at me” Christianity.   Can you see the “look at me” attitude in this excerpt they posted from the Christian Post?

Some 500,000 American teens are joining a 30-hour nationwide “famine” to raise money to fight hunger around the world starting at noon Friday.

Teens will fast for 30 hours to get a real taste of hunger that millions of children and families around the world experience each day. Participants aim to raise more than $12 million this year through World Vision’s 30 Hour Famine.

“In 2005 I did my first 30 hour famine. It was an amazing experience…to feel what these kids feel every day and to learn about what they go through to survive is so amazing,” said one participant named Jessie…

If that is “look at me Christianity”, what else should be consider “look at me” Christianity?  Missionaries?  Tithing?  Going to prayer meetings?

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Made of fail!

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I think the Editor at CRN may need to brush up on his talking points.  In the span of the last two days we have been treated to three stories on the Emerging Church.  The first one says that Emergent thinking is swallowing youth.  Oh no!  Sounds scary, right?

The next story says the Emerging Church is receding.  Phew, that was close!

Wait, what’s this?  This article says that Brian McLaren “continues to gain more and more acceptance within the mainstream evangelical camp”.  Oh no!  Panic again!

As a reader, I wonder who edits the Editor?  We got a story to sell here boys!  Either the EC means impending doom, or it can be laughed off.  Let’s get our facts straight for once.

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Support Our Troops
I am confused. So much energy is spent from the ODMs trying to knock out Rick Warren for his P.E.A.C.E. plan. They don’t like the fact that he is spending a good amount of time fighting for so called non-religious causes, and partnering with people of different faiths and backgrounds to do so.

Yet, somehow because we are American, it is acceptable to tie supporting our military to our faith. Causes like world hunger, AIDS and poverty are not a worthy cause (or worse, used as a weapon against those they disagree with), but supporting a non-religious war, and connecting scripture to it is perfectly acceptable. However, I would like to remind the elusive editor at CRN that they are supporting an organization, our military, that is 22% catholic, 21% atheist, and a good minority of Muslims and Jews. We won’t even get into the rising numbers of homosexuals in the military.

So, how exactly are you condemning Warren for partnering with Democrats and homosexuals to end world hunger, but you yourselves openly support an enterprise with people you condemn on a regular basis? Is this not a double standard?

For the record, I strongly support our troops and the original intent of the war. I think that we do owe them a good deal of gratitude.

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every article at CRN right now is written by the editor, except for three.

For people that are so concerned about fighting for the truth, they sure have a strange way of being truthful about who is writing these very controversial articles.  Just a thought.

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In his latest rant at CRN, the editor is deriding this contest at the Emergent Village site.  The contest is described in these terms on the EV website:

In order for the rich benefits of alternative atonement theology to move beyond the circles of those who read theology books we must develop alternative imagery. We need not just a golf bag full of different explanations; we need a bag full of different imagery to use in conversations over coffee, in sermons, youth meetings, on blogs, etc. This contest aims to help this happen both through encouraging a wide number of people to work at developing an image, and then also by sharing the best images so that many others can use them.

So can somebody enlighten me as to what is wrong with this?  We commonly speak in metaphors when describing Biblical principles because it is a way to bring understanding to a wider audience.  Many of the narratives and events in Scripture contain truths that can be gleaned from a surface level reading, but once one digs deeper, a more multi-faceted picture emerges.  By limiting ourselves by saying our view of Christ’s death and resurrection is the “one true meaning of Christ’s atonement”, as the Editor puts it, we are, I believe, closing ourselves off from important truths that God might want to reveal to us.

I would be interested to hear what the Apostle Paul said was the “one true meaning” of the Atonement.  It seems to me that Paul used a whole arsenal of images and metaphors at his disposal to describe the work of Christ on the cross to the people to whom he was writing.  In Romans, Christ’s death is described in judicial terms because these image were something the Romans saw everyday.  They knew what it meant to be condemned by the law.  In Colossians, Christ is described as being victorious over the power of Satan.  These images would be normal to a city that celebrated milatary strength and power.  In Philipians, Christ is held up as the ultimate example.  The list could go on and on.

The thing is that none of these descriptions invalidates the other.  They are merely different perspective on the grand, cosmic event that was the death and resurrection of Christ.  As long as we point to the that as the center of gravity that our faith orbits around, it seems part of the Church’s mission is to communicate it as best as possible wherever and whenever we are.

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The latest article at CRN is entitled Rick Warren tells Jewish leader “There are More Than Enough Christian Souls…” Sounds absolutely scandalous, doesn’t it? I mean, this obviously shows that Warren doesn’t want any more people to come to Christ, and is rooting for modern Judaism, right?
Or, we could simply look at it in context. With creative editing, you can make a story look so juicy. Let’s look at the quotes unedited.
CRN wrote

Warren managed to speak for the entire evening without once mentioning Jesus — a testament to his savvy message-tailoring…

The full quote

The other secret to his success is his passion for God and Jesus. Warren managed to speak for the entire evening without once mentioning Jesus — a testament to his savvy message-tailoring. But make no mistake, the driving purpose of an evangelical church is to evangelize, and it is Warren’s devotion to spreading the words of the Christian Bible that drive his ministry.

CRN wrote in the title

There are More Than Enough Christian Souls

leaving out the ending…

There are more than enough Christian souls to deal with for starters

obviously a joke, responding to why he was not trying to convert all the Jews he was working with. And finally, CRN wrote

The success of Warren’s second book, “The Purpose-Driven Life” (Zondervan, 2002), demonstrates his ability to turn a particular gospel into a universal one

However, we already saw from the first quote that the author clearly saw Warren’s agenda of “spreading the words of the Christian Bible” out of “his passion for God and Jesus”

On top of all this… the article is dated June 23, 2006. If you have to go back two years to dig up some dirt, you may be a bit to zealous for your cause.

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