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I am disturbed by articles like this one. In light of this, I would like to present to you the officialCRN Method of Research:

When there is a shortage of juicy hit pieces, begin with step #1

  1. go to
  2. seach for words like church, emergent, dance, elvis, crazy, funny, postmodern, young adult
  3. find a video from an event that you know nothing about that happened in a church that no one has heard of
  4. write a scathing headline like “I am sure that God is proud of this filth!”
  5. copy the URL to your piece and click “publish”

it’s as simple as that! You too can be the watchdoggie for every church in America!

It’s one thing to fight “heresy” in churches that are highly influential and affecting other communities of faith. It is another thing to become the theology/methodology patrol for every single church in the world. Ken Silva (who is the general editor for the editor, and thus responsible for all articles) has no idea what went on at this event, has no clue what was preached, or even what they believe. All he knows is that they had a funny opening at a young adults event. I am sure that Ken will give us some excuse about how God is pleased to have called him to police all of youtube now as well.

Looks like the watchdoggie stormtroopers are starting to come out in the youtube comments. If you feel like leaving some encouragement please do so. -Tim Reed

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This article from CRN shows exactly how dense these guys really are. They will stop at nothing to defeat those they call their enemies. Here is one example from Warren and the video response

Warren: “It takes more than belief, it takes more than faith to really please God… Religion without love doesn’t matter. What matters is how I love God and how I love other people. That’s the great commandment”

Leaven Commentary: “that is a LIE! We are saved by grace alone through faith alone! Rick’s taking us back to the law. The law cannot make us pleasing to God”

Unfortunately, Warren was not talking about salvation; he was talking about pleasing God. Not once did he mention salvation in the entire video. Without faith it is impossible to please God, but faith without deeds is dead. He’s not taking us back to the law; he’s taking us back to the New Testament. But, that’s the great thing about the “solas”. You have no responsibility. Sit back and let the world go to hell, don’t upset yourself with loving others, and CERTAINLY don’t worry about good deeds… in the end, the tables are fixed. Just make sure that everyone you know is either a Calvinist or knows how pitiful they are in the eyes of God.  In essence, they are only reading the scriptures they want to, and ruthlessly defending the solas.

These guys really have no integrity when it comes to these articles. Once again Ken Silva shows his true character (and as the General Editor, Silva is responsible for every article posted).

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A Green Watchdawggie - a rare breed!The creation of associations and associative barriers are ways in which our minds pair up concepts so that we can quickly understand a situation, without having to work through multiples of logical connections to reach a conclusion.  When we hear the wail of a siren on a stormy night here in the midwest, we instantly think “tornado” and take appropriate action.  When we’re driving at night and see someone else driving erratically, swerving without reason, we instantly think “drunk driver” and act accordingly.

Associative barriers are helpful in day-to-day life, both practically and spiritually.

However, while they are helpful in many areas, when we fail to recognize them and start making false associations (assumptions), these helpful mnemonic devices do us more harm than good.

For instance, because of the political landscape in America, a majority of Christians have aligned themselves with “conservative” causes because their “hot-button” issues – primarily anti-abortion and pro-family policy – is considered a key part of conservatism.   In making this alignment, though, these Christians often find themselves seeing other “conservative” issues as being their own, as well – from tax policy to defense to governing philosophy.  Additionally, specific issues such as environmentalism, social responsibility, regulatory oversight are often associated with “liberal” policy, and have been co-opted as causes of the left.

So, when Christians without self-reflective ability to understand these barriers hear other Christians talking about things like environmental and social responsibility, their associative barriers instantly flag these brothers as “liberal” (or “emergent” or whatever anti-Conservative boogeymen are most assosicated with environmental/social action).  Thus labelled, these brothers can now be “outed” and ostracized for their apostacy of aligning themselves with baby-killers, homosexuals and pedophiles.

Which brings us to today.

This post by the spinless, unnamed “Editor” of CRN today is indicative of this myopic and destructive mindset.  They link to this story which describes leaders from the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) meeting with government and industry leaders on the benefits of cutting energy usage in church buldings – which include demonstrating good stewardship of God’s creation and a potential $200 million savings from reduced energy usage. The CR?N commentary for this article?  Here it is, in toto:

People may be headed to Hell in unprecedented numbers in our generation, but hewy(sic), at least they’re saving money as evangelical churches in this nation abandoned by God conserve energy.

Someone tell Julie that we’ve found the copy of the Book of Life she lent out.  Apparently the Editor of CR?N has it since he/she knows the “unprecedented” numbers of people going to Hell in this generation.  Sarcasm aside, this 1-sentence post, having been written by (we assume, since we don’t know their identity) a Christian,  is incredibly disturbing from so many angles, that it’s hard to choose just one.  But we’ll try.

This one-sentence post is so indicative of the associative barriers I have observed in the church, including myself, over the past ten years that my reaction is primarily one of sadness.  The author’s use of the English language doesn’t tell us whether it is the “evangelical church” or the “nation” which has been “abandoned by God” (a topic alone in which we could unpack all sorts of ungodly, dysfunctional thinking), but the implication seems to be clear that churches which participate in environmental sustainability initiatives have missed their mission and are hellbound.

Become a pirate to stop global warming!I say nuts to that.

Being a good steward of God’s creation is part of the mission we, as a people, were given in Genesis.  While I will be one of the first to stand up and declare my skepticism toward the belief that global warming exists and that man is a primary cause of it (I’ve seen much of the data, and – more importantly – the science behind it, and like John at VerumSerum, I find it a race to reach a foregone conclusion for political gain), I also believe that there are a number of basic “sustainable” ways of living which demonstrate our love for God in caring for His creation, and – in this society – would serve to hold Him to to show that He is the One True God.

Such things include:

  • Conservation of energy
  • Searching for alternative, sustainable and humane sources of energy
  • Recycling
  • Waste minimization
  • Pollution reduction
  • Species protection (within reason)

These things are not “liberal” or “conservative” issues – they are God issues.

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. 

Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior. But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation— if you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven 

So, please – let us not eschew doing good by God’s creation because some cause we disagree with fundamentally agrees with us on this issue!  And, while we’re at it, let’s knock off cursing Christ’s bride and the house she lives in.

[Just to note - associative barriers cut in many directions, such as when some of us see Calvinists hiding behind every disagreement while others see "emergents" as the driving force behind anything/everything distasteful to them (and, therefore, to God).]

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I have seen this video posted at CRN many times.  I am not saying that I agree with the idea that a pastor can simply download one of Warren or Hybel’s sermons.  However, I wonder if the editor over at CRN would have a problem with a website of sermons from dead theologians for pastors to use.  Would they make a video expose of churches that use the sermons of Spurgeon, Edwards or Calvin in their Sunday services?  The song on the video says “we need to hear your voice, whatever you might say.”  I know plenty of pastors who listen to what many dead theologians heard years ago rather than hearing from him for themselves.  This is not just a purpose driven issue… but then again, we have different standards for our enemies, don’t we.

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Based on this post, I think someone should really inform the “editor” of the definition of hypocricy.  I just find it more than funny that a site that routinely parrots pastors, both dead and living, is complaining about pastors using each other’s material.

This is also coming from the anonymous “editor”, so we have no idea who this is talking, anyway.

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CRN and the ODMs are all up in arms over a sermon series title. South Hills Church is doing a series called “HEROES: You have what it takes”. They are obviously taking a spin off the hit tv show. However one look at their web page will show you that they are far from exegeting Heroes. The sermons deal with being a person of courage, generosity, faithfulness and commitment. Sounds like pretty sound stuff to me. Of course, a little leaven had to throw in their wonderful calvinistic self-hating theology

The Bible tells us that all of us are sinners in need of a savior. In other words, NONE of us ‘has what it takes’.

Really, I remember the scriptures telling me I could do all things thru Christ and that I am more than a conquer. Maybe the verses about walking thru fire and not getting burned or any weapon forming against me will not prosper are not in their scriptures. Or, maybe their research stopped at the HEROES logo.


Derek Webb, a popular Christian singer, said this in a recent article

The church has been co-opted and been a puppet of the conservative party system, and in a two-party system, that’s dangerous.

So, of course that sent all of the repulichristians up the wall. Silva writes back

And now the countermove in this game of spiritual chess. I can just as easily say The church is being hijacked and made into a puppet of the left-wing red letter Christian party system of the emerging church and in a two-party system, that’s dangerous.

I just LOVE how he switches the conversation to his personal rant. He has to make a “countermove” to make sure that everyone knows that political conservatives are right, and the real enemy is the emergents. And all this coming from a guy who just generally edited a piece called “Bush Believes in Universalism?” Why “countermove” on a position that you yourself believe!?! That’s probably goes in the “I’m not a Calvinist” but “Why I am Calvinist” category for Ken.

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An "editor", posting anonymously and cowardly writes:

A Little Leaven is reporting on a church whose latest sermon series will plum the “spiritual depths” of the Heroes TV Show. (We didn’t even know the show was supposed to be Christian)

When will these purpose-driven seeker-sensitive types come to grips with the fact that they are not producing disciples? Willow Creek’s data proves it! Instead, these people are only pretending to do church by spiritualizing pop-psych and self-help.

The problem is that’s not what the study found.  What the study found was that attending lots of programs didn’t correlate with spiritual maturity.  Let me quote Hybels on the issue:

Some of the stuff that we have put millions of dollars into thinking it would really help our people grow and develop spiritually, when the data actually came back it wasn’t helping people that much. Other things that we didn’t put that much money into and didn’t put much staff against is stuff our people are crying out for.

In other words, this wasn’t a study on the success or failure of a type of church as a whole.  Its gets even worse for the anonymous "researcher" who wrote this.  This study had absolutely nothing to do with the way sermons are framed or promoted.

Which leads me to question whether or not there was any actual research done. 

The more often these mistakes happen, and happen in favor of the watchdoggies’ point of view, the more I begin to think that these are less the result of incompetence, and more the result of malice. 

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looks like the elusive editor keeps getting Ken Silva all tied up in trouble :)   Read Ken trying to get outta this one.  Isn’t the GENERAL editor the one responsible for the information being put out by their publication?

Also, I am trying to figure out how we misconstrued the point of a four line satire article.  Pretty funny stuff.

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I am now used to being the poster child for Mosaic at CRN, and all the stereotypes that come along with it. But why must they make unfair and illogical connections with people? Labels seem to be their mode of operation. Here are some quote describing ME

Another example of the hate for proper Biblical Christianity espoused by the Mosaic of Pain spawned by Erwin McManus. Today in the comments section of a blog where he is contributor Nathan Neighbour, one of McManus’ disciples


I provide the following from Nathan Neighbour whose pastor just happens to be lead singer pastor, cultural architect and distinguished futurist Erwin McManus of Mosaic.


Nathan Neighbour whose “pastor” is cultural architect, distinguished furturist and emerging church leader Erwin McManus.


*Gen. Ed. Note* Nathan Neighbour, a disciple of Cultural Architect Erwin McManus of the emerging church Mosiac, has also commented on the poster issue.


Nathan Neighbour, self-professed “leader” in the emerging church, disciple of Cultural Architect and distinguished futurist Erwin McManus

I mean, does it make better headlines to add Erwin McManus to my name? I am just a kid from Southern California –but when you add his name to my ideas [POOF!] you have a juicy story. I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, and no one else. I synthesize and formate my ideas without needing to consult a man. I am a free thinker, not a robot who spews out ideas from an author, a friend, a pastor or a Christian icon.

Labels, labels, labels. Emergent, Emerging, Purpose Driven, Seeker Sensitive, Man Loving, Reformed, Heretic, Orthodox, Mystic, Traditional, Fundamentalist, Apostate. If you don’t fit into one of those categories, then they SHOVE you into one. Why can’t I just be? Why do I have to be the emerging disciple of Erwin McManus? I think this is the issue here. We need to ditch the labels and just judge people for who they are (if we must judge). Or maybe the labels just make for more web hits.

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This just in, the anonymous coward known only as “editor” has declared that C?N and other watchdoggie outlets to be 100% Christ free. Check it out here.

What’s that you say? You saw nothing of the sort? The problem is that you’re not thinking like a watchdoggie. As we’ve learned in the past merely footnoting a heretic means you agree with that person completely. So I figure if a footnote means you agree completely then posting a video of someone has to mean you’re their disciple, and since Taylor Mali’s mission is education we can only assume that C?N has abandoned Christ is favor of education.

Of course I’m being a bit silly to show how ridiculous the guilt by association arguments the watchdoggies make are. But there was at least one serious point that can be taken from the anonymous coward’s post: C?N has no clue what the e/e churches are all about.

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